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Steve Garvie

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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2018, 11:04:46 PM »
Nice orchids Aldo!

Some Australian orchids in flower here:

Diuris amplissima


Caladenia (flava x latifolia) x flava


Thelymitra nuda x variegata


Diuris behrii


Thelymitra luteocilium
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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2018, 08:36:54 AM »
Wow, stunning, Steve.
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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2018, 10:22:17 AM »
Superb Pictures of orchids, nearly unknown to me!
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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2018, 11:43:03 PM »
Many thanks Chris and Herbert.

Changnienia amoena: I got this from a German vendor as a small tuber 4 years ago. I grow it in shade on a shelf under the bench of a cold greenhouse. It is in a compost comprised of Sophistocat cat litter/perlite/pine bark and pine needles with a small amount of proprietary ericaceous compost added. It is kept moist over the Winter and is gently dried off in late Spring when it goes dormant. Like Calypso it requires a little Summer moisture to prevent dessication. It also needs protection from marauding molluscs and other nefarious wee varmints.



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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2018, 10:09:17 PM »
Orchis provincialis


Orchis mascula


Orchis ustulata


Orchis morio


Ophrys picta
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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2018, 04:48:09 AM »
Nice pictures Steve and I like Changnienia amoena most.

The last one looks more like Ophrys picta and is surely not Ophrys oestrifera, neither s.str. nor s.l..
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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2018, 10:35:48 AM »
Many thanks Stefan.

I think I have the wrong names for a few of my Ophrys. I lack the expertise to sort this.  ???
I will change the label.
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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2018, 11:06:45 AM »
Some of you may find this an interesting read

https://academic.oup.com/aob/article/121/1/85/4796793

according to the DNA analysis, there are only 9 Ophrys species. 
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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2018, 04:42:59 PM »
Nine seems about right, but my friend now calls me a "Lumpernazi" so I would say that.

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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2018, 08:33:04 PM »
according to the DNA analysis, there are only 9 Ophrys species.

You may believe that I definitely don't.

Other more extensive (and much more expensive) DNA analysis show a high correlation with the biological approach (pollinator).
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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2018, 09:34:42 AM »
Except that it depends on which definition of the species you take, the genetic variability inside a species can be greater than the differences between alledged different species... And there's an annoying tendancy among ophrys taxonomists to describe each local form or even lusus as a new species!
Facts remain, there are only 9 or 10 groups among which "species" are fully cross-compatible, cross apifera group with insectifera group, the hybrid's pollen will be sterile (same with spehgodes, same with scolopax)... but individual "species" in each groups are fully cross-breedable, where do we draw the line between local diversity among a species and different species themselves?
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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2018, 10:10:48 PM »
I think that "the splitters" often forget the soil's nature and microclimate give local "species" features.

sphegodes is nice case of variability, all DNA analysis gave the same result.
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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2018, 11:08:17 PM »
Orchis pallens


Ophrys calocaerina


Orchis quadripunctata


Orchis champagneuxii


Ophrys reinholdii

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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2018, 05:49:17 AM »
Some orchids are in flower here and are getting taller each year. Some have multiplied from one bulb.

Ophrys ficalhoana



Ophrys arnoldii



Androrchis prisca



Herorchis boryi



Herorchis laxiflora

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Re: Terrestrial Orchids 2018
« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2018, 10:16:31 PM »
ficalhoana usually produce many bulbs, one my best increaser.
prisca is Orchis spitzelii?
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