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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: Erika on January 25, 2018, 05:45:58 PM

Title: Pancratium
Post by: Erika on January 25, 2018, 05:45:58 PM
Hello, I just received a bulb of Pancratium sickenbergeri. This is my first bulb in this Genus. How deep should they be planted, and what pot size would be appropriate? Thank you. I hope Im posting in the correct section. Erika
Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: Maggi Young on January 25, 2018, 06:01:26 PM
I think this needs  quite a dry   home -  very well-drained  mixture in a pot for sure.
 Hans A. says while it flowers for him in Majorca, it doesn't make the curly leaves .....
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2470.msg166902#msg166902 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2470.msg166902#msg166902)
Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: Hannelore on January 25, 2018, 07:05:10 PM
Hello Erika,

Hello, I just received a bulb of Pancratium sickenbergeri. This is my first bulb in this Genus. How deep should they be planted, and what pot size would be appropriate? Thank you. I hope Im posting in the correct section. Erika

I have Pancratium maritinum from seeds which I brought 2014 from the botanic garden on Gran Canaria. It grows in a pot simulating its situation on the beach: The pot is ca. 30 cm height, at the bottom 10 cm soil and the rest "sharp sand" (screed sand). In summer the pot stands in open air in a very sunny place, in winter (rather dry) in the cold glasshouse (temperature down to 5C). The leaves stand upright 15-20cm over the sand. I hope to get flowers this year. In any case I'll open the pot in May-June (after 3 years) and look how the bulbs have develloped.

Greetings
Hannelore
Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: Erika on January 25, 2018, 07:16:09 PM
Thank you Hannelore. How deep should the bulb be planted? Erika
Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: Hannelore on January 25, 2018, 07:20:47 PM
When I planted mine, there were hardly bulbs because the seedlings were less than a year old. If I'll find bulbs I'll plant them ca. 1/3 into the soil, 2/3 into the sand. It's just imitating how they probably grow in their natural habitat. It is surely strange never to see what happens under 20 cm sand, but as the leaves of my plants stand always right up and when vanishing new leaves come in a short time I presume that they're o.k.

Greeting
Hannelore

Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: Hannelore on January 27, 2018, 10:58:55 AM
Here's a picture how they look like yesterday. The longest leave has more than 20 cm ~ 8"
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Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: Gail on May 17, 2019, 06:30:40 PM
Pancratium illyricum flowering, nicely fragrant
Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: Maggi Young on May 17, 2019, 09:04:35 PM
Isn't  it  odd how some  flowers  LOOK fragrant?  ( or  is that just  me?!!)
Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: Gail on May 17, 2019, 09:46:23 PM
No, definitely not just you. I've brought the pot in and it is sitting on my desk so I get to enjoy the scent for longer - quite a delicate scent but sweet.
Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: Karaba on May 21, 2019, 01:09:34 PM
Gail, definitely one of my prefered flower.

It's strange that your P. illyricum has no leave while flowering. Maybe is it because it has been freshly planted ?
P. illyricum is quite hardy, at least Z7. Mine has survived winter with -18C during the night. You can plant it quite deeply until the beak is at the surface.
With some more year, I hope you will have plant with several stalks (4 each year) like those in picture with more than 20 fowers !  ;D
Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: Gail on May 21, 2019, 11:41:52 PM
Thanks Karaba, yes it was a new acquisition in  November last year. I do hope I manage to get it to develop like yours which is very impressive!
Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: luca on June 14, 2019, 04:22:47 PM
My Pancratium sickenbergeri
Zephyranthes Drummondii
Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: Gail on June 14, 2019, 07:12:18 PM
Very pretty flower Luca, but I think that is a Zephyranthes not Pancratium sickenbergeri which should look like;

http://www.wildflowers.co.il/english/plant.asp?ID=1011 (http://www.wildflowers.co.il/english/plant.asp?ID=1011)
Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: luca on June 16, 2019, 10:45:15 AM
Yes i had some doubt, too... the flower is so different...

But sent to me as Pancratium, and the leaves are different from Zephyrantes...
Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: Rob-Rah on August 14, 2019, 06:03:01 PM
As this is a Pancratium thread, I thought I'd share the first flowering my Pancratium maritimum here at the moment :)

(Soil is around 4/5 silver sand, 1/5 grittier sand, 1/5 John Innes no.3 - no particular watering regime, though it is dryish in summer just as the pot dries out quicker I think - kept under glass and watered every 2-3 weeks)
Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: Gail on August 14, 2019, 07:23:28 PM
Have you grown it from seed Rob? And if so how long did it take to flower?
Title: Re: Pancratium
Post by: Rob-Rah on August 14, 2019, 08:13:07 PM
An eternity from seed! Maybe 8-10 years? I cant' remember now. Surrounding it are some 3 yo seedlings now, as I am a glutton for punishment. Seed germinates easily.