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Title: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 02, 2019, 07:53:10 PM
Big yellow Massonia depressa from Kamiesburg
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: todoplant on January 03, 2019, 09:24:57 AM
Lachenalia trichophylla.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: todoplant on January 03, 2019, 09:27:37 AM
Lachenalia trichophylla.
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Post by: todoplant on January 03, 2019, 09:29:22 AM
 Empodium flexile
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Post by: Steve Garvie on January 03, 2019, 01:36:42 PM
A very interesting looking Massonia Rimmer.
Do you grow all of your winter-growing S. A. bulbs under artificial lighting?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: todoplant on January 03, 2019, 02:05:53 PM
Massonia pygmae.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: todoplant on January 03, 2019, 02:18:36 PM
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Post by: todoplant on January 03, 2019, 02:19:03 PM
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Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on January 03, 2019, 03:06:41 PM
A lovely moraea comptonii. So easy to see the relationship with Moraea elegans
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on January 03, 2019, 03:09:43 PM
Gladiolus lillaceous - these were taken across a few hours. The flowers are supposed to be getting darker (a bit?) - they definitely smelled stronger and sweeter as it got darker
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on January 03, 2019, 03:21:38 PM
Lachenalia vanzyliae - one of my favourites. Up close you can see itís blue dots. Its hard to believe itís an aloides from the colour
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on January 03, 2019, 03:27:06 PM
Lovely plants everyone.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 04, 2019, 07:40:28 PM
A very interesting looking Massonia Rimmer.
Do you grow all of your winter-growing S. A. bulbs under artificial lighting?

Yes. But i start them outside until the temp gets too cold or unprectable.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 04, 2019, 07:43:26 PM
Massonia pustulata -Napier from McMaster seed.
Confirmed as pustulata by Paul Cumbleton on this list last January.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 04, 2019, 07:46:03 PM
Massonia tenella from Silverhill 2011 seed- small plant in seed here now.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 04, 2019, 07:53:44 PM
Someone asked about Lachenalia trichophylla Seeds and seedlings.
Mature plant and bud about to bloom
And seedlings of two forms from Silverhill started in Sept 2016
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on January 06, 2019, 04:28:54 PM
Quite a few moraeas out today. In order Moraea villosa, Moraea gigandra and finally Moraea papillonacae. The Moraea loubseri flowers are still out but looking the worse for wear. I found the villosa in a pot of gladioli venustus!
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Gail on January 06, 2019, 08:02:03 PM
Very lovely Paul - those blue eyes are very appealing.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on January 06, 2019, 08:26:08 PM
First of the Lachenalia's.  This has to be the largest one I've sen.  Ruler added for comparison.

Duncan says scape to 100 to 150 mm.

this is much taller

Lachenalia bifolia.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: bibliofloris on January 06, 2019, 11:55:01 PM
Such gorgeous blooms and interesting plants, everyone! I love the almost iridescent colors and the unusual combinations...

I didnít manage to photograph my Lachenalia viridiflora, but it did bloom beautifully. Hereís my Lachenalia namaquensis, from Telos Bulbs.

Thanks again for the advice and help as I get started with these.

óKelly
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on January 10, 2019, 06:15:15 PM
Close-up of Lachenalia bifolia or AKA Lachenalia bulbifera

Seems that some of Graham Duncan's revisions have not been accepted universally.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 11, 2019, 02:51:58 PM
Massonia seedling from seed distributed by Cameron McMaster at the 2011 IBSA conference as Massonia echinata collected in Napier. However, it seems different. Any ideas on identity?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Darren on January 11, 2019, 03:53:16 PM
It seems to resemble the fairly newly described M. gypsicola. You can see the paper at massonia.com

http://www.massonia.com/species (http://www.massonia.com/species)

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Bert Zaalberg on January 11, 2019, 06:07:32 PM
the Massonia Rimmer is showing is Massonia setulosa. the little bristles (=setulosa) are visible on the leaves.
Cameron distributed seeds of these plants growing at the Monsanto farm (currently named Sensako) East of Napier in the Eastern Cape. In the beginning he offered them as echinata, last 2 to 3 years correctly as setulosa.

See attached 2 setulosa pictures for comparison I took in my collection last week here in NL.

nb: Massonia gypsicola is a species from the Knersvlakte, far in the Western Cape.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 12, 2019, 01:12:15 AM
Thank you Bert and Darren.
So if this is Setulosa due to the bristles on the leaves
Then is this ( see link)  from Gouritz that bloomed a month ago also M setulosa?
It does not have bristles on the leaves

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=15942.msg398439#msg398439 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=15942.msg398439#msg398439)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Bert Zaalberg on January 12, 2019, 08:33:18 AM
@todoplant
there is a post on january 3rd from todoplant showing a picture named as Massonia tenella.

this is incorrect, the picture shows Massonia pygmaea ssp pygmaea.

Massonia tenella has yellow pollen and flower looks quite different.
see 2 pics of tenella
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Bert Zaalberg on January 12, 2019, 08:45:24 AM
Hi Rimmer
something went wrong it seems since this post ended up in the 2018 subject. i tried to change it but it didn't move. So hereby a 2nd try.
The plants from Gouritz River are currently not considered setulosa. They are known as sp. Gouritz River and still to be described. It is most likely the same species as the ones from Vleesbaai and Plettenberg. They flower 6 weeks earlier then setulosa and have glabrous leaves (or only very fine short hairs). I noticed that setulosa has a very distinct fragrance. My greenhouse is filled with it currently. bit lemony, very fresh and pleasant.
They are also different from the other "yellow-anthered" plants from around Bredasdorp known so far as bredasdorpensis n.n. Those have also glabrous leaves (or only very fine short hairs) but relatively small flowers compared to its large leaves and thin, bended filaments (not thick and stiff like with setulosa and Gouritz).
see some pics attached.
Bert
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rob-Rah on January 13, 2019, 01:55:11 PM
The first few flowers on Oxalis obtusa 'Elizabeth' are out in the greenhouse now. These should be lovely mounds of flowers in Feb, along with other pots of different cultivars.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on January 13, 2019, 06:54:28 PM
Couple of bright sunny days here.

Two different Lachenalia aloides quadricolor.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 14, 2019, 12:28:00 AM
Massonia sp? With purple pollen. Bulb came as an unknown winter grower. Leaf substance almost as thick as Massonia depresssa. Any suggestions on identity?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 15, 2019, 05:11:54 PM
The short curleys are starting to bloom

Ornithogalum apertum/concordianum, aka albuca concordiana

Albuca circinata

Albuca spiralis

Not sure of the difference between these last two.

Last snap from 24Jan
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on January 19, 2019, 04:17:00 PM
Gladiolus venustrus

Found in winter rainfall [attach=1]Clanwilliam district in Western Cape.

Sweetly rose scented.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on January 19, 2019, 07:24:39 PM
That is a pretty one Arnold.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on January 19, 2019, 08:03:41 PM
David:

thanks, it is a good grower and looks to have more blooms on the scape this year.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Diane Whitehead on January 20, 2019, 02:47:37 AM
I read somewhere that curleys wouldn't curl for me.  I can't remember why they wouldn't - whether
day length, temperature or ???

Do you do anything special so that your leaves curl?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 20, 2019, 04:54:13 AM
I read somewhere that curleys wouldn't curl for me.  I can't remember why they wouldn't - whether
day length, temperature or ???

Do you do anything special so that your leaves curl?

Not really
They are in mostly sand under lights on during daylight hours at 45-75F, little water since brought in last November

The PBS photo wiki says the amount of curling is a function of the amount of sunlight when leaves emerge.
https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Albuca_spiralis (https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Albuca_spiralis)

Here is a pot of Albuca spiralis seedlings started last Oct 23, 2018. They are already curling
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 23, 2019, 06:06:48 PM
Purple lachenalias
Lachenalia mutabilis
Lachenalia palidia
Lachenalis splendens
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 23, 2019, 06:10:34 PM
Lachenalis callista
Last 2 snaps from 2Feb
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Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 23, 2019, 06:14:35 PM
Lachenalia trichophylla in bloom
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Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 23, 2019, 06:18:07 PM
Veltheimia.
Came as small bulblet as V bractea but now that it blooms i think it is V capensis.
Any suggestions on id?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 26, 2019, 02:35:32 PM
Massonia citrina
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Post by: Gail on January 26, 2019, 05:30:44 PM
That is nice Rimmer, is it scented?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Bert Zaalberg on January 27, 2019, 02:21:50 PM
Lachenalia trichophylla
ex Silverhill seeds 2012
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 27, 2019, 02:51:51 PM
That is nice Rimmer, is it scented?
Wife says not really, perhaps faint lemon citrus.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on January 27, 2019, 03:51:45 PM
Rimmer

My V. capensis blooms reliably in Oct-Nov. and the V. bracteata blooms much later in Feb- March.

The scape of V. bracteata is up but weeks away from blooming.



Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on January 27, 2019, 03:59:45 PM
Cape Bulbs by Manning et al.

V. capensis flowers in SA April-July

Bracts are  10-15 mm long

V. bracteata flowers in Aug.-Sept.
Bracts are 10-30 mm long.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on January 27, 2019, 05:15:08 PM
Here's my Veltheimia bractaeta today.
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Post by: ArnoldT on January 27, 2019, 05:16:08 PM
Lachenalia aloides quadricolor.

Reminds me of a trumpet concerto.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on January 27, 2019, 05:16:58 PM
Lachenalia thunbergii

Not so sure of the ID on this one.

Popped up in a pot of Glads.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on January 27, 2019, 05:18:24 PM
Massonia citrina.

A bit behind Rimmer's.

Probably grow it a bit cooler here.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on January 29, 2019, 05:33:13 AM
Some amazing gladiolus. They are a stunning genus

Gladiolus equitans
Gladiolus watermayeri
Gladiolus gracilis
Gladiolus Watsonious

The watermayeri smells exquisite and the gracilis sweet but not as strong as what must be itís close relative Carinatus
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on January 29, 2019, 05:42:05 AM
Geissorhiza radians in all itís glory. The bottom
Pic made me wonder about insects visual systems and their aesthetics - and ours.
Convergent approaches across continents, families and genus
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on January 29, 2019, 02:01:54 PM
Hi Paul

Did you drop a Leucocoryne in there to trick us.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 29, 2019, 04:14:40 PM
Cape Bulbs by Manning et al.

V. capensis flowers in SA April-July

Bracts are  10-15 mm long

V. bracteata flowers in Aug.-Sept.
Bracts are 10-30 mm long.

This one has bracts about 10-12 mm
Glaucous leaves
July in RSA = Feb in USA
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on January 30, 2019, 04:53:51 AM
Hi Paul

Did you drop a Leucocoryne in there to trick us.
I think that's to demonstrate the convergent evolution  ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on January 30, 2019, 05:00:41 AM
Well spotted Arnold and thanks FermŪ - the leucocoryne was there to highlight the convergent evolution point but Iím Probably seeing a pattern that doesnít exist, lol
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on January 30, 2019, 05:10:59 AM
A few lachenalia;

lachenalia contaminata - (pic 1 and 2) maybe the green Ďcontaminationí will fade to maroon.
Lachenalia Arbuthnotiea (pic 3)
lachenalia orchiodes ssp. Glaucina (pic 4)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 30, 2019, 07:24:09 PM
Pelargonium incrassatum
Pink
Magenta
Pink
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on January 31, 2019, 09:40:29 PM
Massonia citrina

Open in the greenhouse, outside at 2 F.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: angie on February 01, 2019, 06:43:36 PM
Here is my Massonia citrina . i took the picture inside my house as it was toooooo cold in the greenhouse for me.

Angie  :)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on February 01, 2019, 08:02:31 PM
....and very nice they were too.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on February 02, 2019, 06:47:36 PM
Ixia Curta! Beautiful and very bright orange. I think Iím in love- itís almost competition for ixia viridiflora.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Steve Garvie on February 02, 2019, 08:34:14 PM
Very nice Paul!
Ixia curta is indeed an attractive colour.


Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on February 03, 2019, 09:23:12 PM
A first time flower. A very diminutive plant.

Lachenalia canaliculata.

Seeds fro ma forumist.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Steve Garvie on February 03, 2019, 11:14:25 PM
Lachenalia aloides
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7843/46909347322_c2a3c25cab_o_d.jpg)

Romulea komsbergensis
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4881/46909347122_4beb3a7685_o_d.jpg)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on February 05, 2019, 02:35:50 PM
Massonia depressa - Uniondale with red anthers
Blooms over one month after other M  depressas
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: YT on February 05, 2019, 03:10:23 PM
Massonia depressa - Uniondale with red anthers
Blooms over one month after other M  depressas
Cool 8)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: YT on February 05, 2019, 03:12:19 PM
Lapeirousia oreogena
Just coming into flower today :)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on February 07, 2019, 03:20:25 PM
Albuca sp. 1 from Steve Hammer 2009 list

Probably a different later blooming clone of Albuca spiralis with lesser amount of glandular hairs.

About 10-12Ē tall, taller than the earlier blooming plants previously shown.

Last snap is glandiular hairs from the A spiralis plants

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=16852.msg399444#msg399444 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=16852.msg399444#msg399444)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on February 07, 2019, 05:08:58 PM
Lachenalia callista

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on February 07, 2019, 08:01:43 PM
[attachimg=1]
Lachenalia callista



Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on February 08, 2019, 09:03:46 PM
Lachenalia orchioides orchioides from AGS 13/14 #3428

And some other colourful lachenalias now
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on February 08, 2019, 09:19:19 PM
Pelargonium incrassatum
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on February 16, 2019, 08:07:56 PM
Lachenalia juncifolia
Lachenalia namaquensis
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on February 17, 2019, 06:50:51 AM
One of the giant Moraeas Iíve got that takes up too much space. Moraea marlothii - itís about three feet tall. It reminds me of a Lilly somehow
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on February 17, 2019, 06:55:39 AM
Another giant moraea- pendula. Itís so tall itís gone beyond the lights...lol
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on February 19, 2019, 05:41:50 AM
lachenalia comptonii - smells lovely. Great abstract patterns
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on February 19, 2019, 05:47:04 AM
Lachenalia pustulata - big flowers
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rob-Rah on February 19, 2019, 06:48:25 PM
One of the giant Moraeas Iíve got that takes up too much space. Moraea marlothii - itís about three feet tall. It reminds me of a Lilly somehow

Oh nice. I have a few of these.... one in a pot, and two have been outdoors on a rockery since last summer. We've not had a very cold winter (so far at least), but they seemed to shrug off the frosts we have had unscathed (c. -4C ish?).

For the pot-grown one, can I ask what size pot you are using to flower it? Its quite a large bulb! Mine's in a 6-7 inch pot, but it feels maybe on the small side.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Bert Zaalberg on February 21, 2019, 03:53:27 PM
Massonia sempervirens
the last Massonia species to flower each winterseason
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on February 21, 2019, 04:33:11 PM
A very pretty one Bert.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on February 24, 2019, 09:46:37 PM
Not sure if this is still a Moraea or moved to Homeria.

Moraea elegans

Veltheimia bracteata
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 25, 2019, 08:18:04 AM
Not sure if this is still a Moraea or moved to Homeria.

Moraea elegans

Hi Arnold,
I believe it used to be a Homeria and is now a Moraea. However I havenít read any taxonomic texts recently so who knows what the latest thinking is  ;)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: YT on February 26, 2019, 10:47:10 AM
Romulea luteoflora, Silvehill Seeds #2976
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on February 26, 2019, 01:19:32 PM
Fermi:

I have a copy of Moraeas of Southern Africa by P. Goldblatt and this one isn't in it.

I think it's been moved around for the last couple of years.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on February 26, 2019, 02:21:57 PM
Romulea luteoflora, Silverhill Seeds #2976

I love the flower colour on this one - and so nice to be reminded of the  Saunders and good chance to mention  that Silverhill Seeds  are  continuing. 
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Steve Garvie on February 26, 2019, 02:37:02 PM
Superbly grown Romulea Tatsuo.
My plants are always too leggy and etiolated.



Sparaxis elegans -Orange form (looks more orange in sunshine!).
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7842/32274593987_afd0c17368_o_d.jpg)

Hesperantha vaginata
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7829/32274593937_256927c49d_o_d.jpg)

Spiloxene capensis -not in the best of light, the centre is actually a very dark maroon.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7804/32274594057_c8a4bfdb11_o_d.jpg)

Ornithogalum concordianum -I bought this online as Gethyllis linearis from a South African bulb seller who had 100% positive reviews. The problem is that by the time bulbs from the Southern Hemisphere have been ďturnedĒ to Northern Hemisphere growing time it is far too late to make any sort of claim/complaint. Be wary of what you buy on ebay!
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7863/32274594177_9222856572_o_d.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7849/32274594117_8243fc3607_o_d.jpg)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on February 26, 2019, 04:49:53 PM
Believe this to be Ferraria crispa, received as a Ferraria 'unknown' but could be convinced otherwise.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 27, 2019, 03:19:59 AM
Believe this to be Ferraria crispa...
Superbly captured, Arnold,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on February 27, 2019, 11:13:42 AM
Thank you Fermi.

Sometimes bright light is more difficult.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on February 27, 2019, 04:41:08 PM
New lists online  from Diana Chapman of  Telos  Rare Bulbs -  supplies in USA and  abroad -  carries a range of  bulbs  not  only  from South Africa and South America

http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/ (http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/)
 email  rarebulbs@suddenlink.net or telosrarebulbs@suddenlink.net
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on February 28, 2019, 02:53:09 PM
I agree with the recommendation for Diana at Telos.  She has been a honest and trustworthy bulb enthusiast for many years.

She has stood by her sales and has a wonderful blog attached to her bulb site.

She just promoted a sale  where profits were distributed to victims of the terrible California fire.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on February 28, 2019, 02:56:48 PM
Here's Gladiolus longicollis obtained from Telos.

It has been a steady performer for me.

The anthers are not much exposed, a characteristic that helps distinguish it from a similar looking Gladiolus tristis.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on February 28, 2019, 06:52:58 PM
Nice one Arnold.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on March 01, 2019, 12:02:00 AM
This one was a surprise.

Arrived as Gladiolus alatus and looks to be Gladiolus cunonius

Also know as spoon flower.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on March 03, 2019, 02:59:01 PM
I've revised my thoughts on the Gladiolus.

I believe it is now Gladiolus splendens based on the purplish bracts.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on March 03, 2019, 02:59:49 PM
Lachenalia quadricolor.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on March 03, 2019, 09:13:44 PM
lachenalia Rosea - one of my last this year😟
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ashley on March 05, 2019, 10:56:33 AM
On the BBC website, here (http://www.bbc.com/travel/gallery/20190304-south-africas-flammable-floral-kingdom), there's a short feature on the role of fire in fynbos ecosystems.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: YT on March 05, 2019, 02:35:37 PM
Hesperantha vaginata
Silverhill Seeds No. 1310
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on March 05, 2019, 11:04:48 PM
Gladiolus longicollis.

Anthers are included in the flower tube.

Should be strongly clove scented but not to my nose.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Steve Garvie on March 06, 2019, 09:26:03 AM
Spiloxene capensis yellow-flowered form, though it also comes in white, cream and pink.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7878/32347437567_8c36b97b7f_o_d.jpg)


Geissorhiza aspera -I have the Worldís largest collection of this plant; all bought as various other species of Geissorhiza!  :o
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7897/32347437387_30b7ee0b4e_o_d.jpg)


Babiana pygmaea -a very range-restricted species from a few sites in the Darling and Malmesbury Districts in the southwestern part of the Western Cape. It has lost most of its habitat to cereal farming.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7824/32347437507_662c5fb0bd_o_d.jpg)


Hesperantha pilosa -this is the pale night-flowering form which opens its flowers at dusk producing a sweet scent attractive to both moths and elite ďBlack OpsĒ special services (image taken through night vision goggles).
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7825/32347437767_7d8a992557_o_d.jpg)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rob-Rah on March 07, 2019, 12:38:34 PM
Some of mine out at the moment :)

Geissorhiza splendidissima
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Oxalis obtusa 'Elizabeth'
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Oxalis obtusa 'Spring Charm'
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Sparaxis elegans (white form)
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Lachenalia namaquensis
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Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on March 07, 2019, 01:00:47 PM
The  markings on the Sparaxis elegans (white form) are  so precise - isn't t nature  clever?  :D
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Gail on March 07, 2019, 02:06:49 PM
The  markings on the Sparaxis elegans (white form) are  so precise - isn't t nature  clever?  :D
Absolutely! It certainly lives up to its name.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 07, 2019, 02:54:40 PM
Some of mine out at the moment :)

Lachenalia namaquensis
(Attachment Link)

Hi Rob-Rah can you show the leaves on your Lachenalia namaquensis.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rob-Rah on March 07, 2019, 04:48:54 PM
Hi Rob-Rah can you show the leaves on your Lachenalia namaquensis.


Oooh - yes, it's not L. namaquensis is it? It was acquired as that and this is its first flowering. I didn't even think when I took the photo! Here are the leaves and a few more photos if it helps get a correct ID.

It came from RV Roger, and the simplest explanation is they mixed up plants. I wonder if it could be L. bachmannii, which they also sell, and which looks rather like my plant?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on March 07, 2019, 06:51:07 PM
 Have a look at L. latifolia
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on March 09, 2019, 09:27:43 PM
Lachenalia juncifolia with a guest.

Another of a fully open Gladiolus  splendens.  Looks to be a landing pad for a pollinator
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Michael J Campbell on March 09, 2019, 09:32:17 PM

 Moraea aristata, the first couple of flowers this year, four weeks later than last year.
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Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 12, 2019, 09:22:15 AM
Autumn bulb season has started  ;D
Here's Brunsvigia marginata a couple of weeks later than last year
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Steve Garvie on March 12, 2019, 10:14:39 AM
Wonderful!!!

What minimum temperatures will it tolerate Fermi?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 12, 2019, 10:23:52 AM
Wonderful!!!

What minimum temperatures will it tolerate Fermi?
Hi Steve,
It got down to -7 oC last year. Itís growing in a bed which has a large amount of coarse sand or ďpea gravelĒ mixed in which may have helped,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Steve Garvie on March 12, 2019, 10:56:31 AM
Thanks Fermi!
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on March 16, 2019, 06:11:55 PM
Nearing the end of the Lachenalia season here.

Lachenalia vanzyliae
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 18, 2019, 05:53:41 PM
Lachenalia rosea
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 18, 2019, 05:54:33 PM
Lachenalia liliflora
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 18, 2019, 05:56:04 PM
Lachenalia orchidioides
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 18, 2019, 05:59:24 PM
Lachenalia vanzyliae
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 18, 2019, 06:55:45 PM
Lachenalia bachmanii. Often shows up under other names in seed exchanges.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 18, 2019, 07:13:59 PM
Not in the correct topoc but i dont know of many plants from Eritrea so i post it here with other geophytic pelargoniums

Prlargonium quinquelobatum from Eritrea. A summer bloomer that prefers the cooler spring here   
Flowers takes on several colours depending on sun -temp now a mauve colour though the photo shows pink
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: YT on March 19, 2019, 05:23:44 PM
Lovely pelargonium, Rimmer :D
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: YT on March 19, 2019, 05:25:03 PM
Romulea subfistulosa from Silverhill Seeds :)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Gail on March 19, 2019, 11:00:31 PM
Lovely to see the backs of the petals - really interesting markings.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on March 22, 2019, 10:26:33 PM
Couldn't find a recent Clivia thread and this qualifies as South African.

Clivia "Vico Yellow" with history by good friend Jim Shields.

http://www.shieldsgardens.com/amaryllids/CliviaVicoYellow.html (http://www.shieldsgardens.com/amaryllids/CliviaVicoYellow.html)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: jshields on March 23, 2019, 12:22:49 PM
I'll follow up the Clivia theme:  This is the late David Conway's 'Eduardo del Carmen' which was named after one of his female ancestors.  It is not always this nice when (and if) it blooms in my greenhouse.  This year it is exceptional.

Jim

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Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on March 23, 2019, 06:25:30 PM
South African flower  growers -  can you suggest  a book that will help "grenadier" in a search for a book with great  Zantedeschia information?
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=17050.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=17050.0)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 23, 2019, 09:20:16 PM
Albuca sp. Plettenberg Bay
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 23, 2019, 09:21:36 PM
Albuca polyphylla-Uniondale
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 23, 2019, 09:23:11 PM
Nicipe (ornithogalum) juncifolium
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on March 23, 2019, 09:37:48 PM
Maggi:

I'm not aware of a book just on Callas.

Here's a list from the Aroid group.

http://www.aroid.org/literature/ (http://www.aroid.org/literature/)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on March 23, 2019, 09:45:19 PM
Thanks, Arnold!
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rob-Rah on March 24, 2019, 02:35:15 PM
Moreaea villosa (but the flowers never seem to open flat for me this year - maybe the lack of sunshine: we have sun finally forecast for a few days so will re-photo if they do better)!

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And this Geissorhiza inflexa - the colour is better in real life. Such a deep blood-red:

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Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on March 24, 2019, 09:27:59 PM
From seed to flower within one season; itís tiny but lovely-freesia verrucosa
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on March 26, 2019, 10:02:23 PM
Lachenalia lilliflora and an unknown
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: jshields on March 27, 2019, 08:23:06 PM
The only thing on Zantedeschia that I could come up with in my own web site is the following:   http://www.shieldsgardens.com/amaryllids/Zantedeschia.html (http://www.shieldsgardens.com/amaryllids/Zantedeschia.html)

Jim

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on March 28, 2019, 01:18:10 PM
Thanks, Jim!
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 28, 2019, 05:38:38 PM
Ixia sp?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: FranÁois Lambert on March 29, 2019, 12:17:55 PM
Flowering very late this year because they were kept very cold during winter - they even endured some sub-zero temps at for a short while.  I kept them in the unheated greenhouse over winter - only putting them in a dark barn when frost below -3įC was forecasted.

But since they are now in the greenhouse again and getting plenty of light the flowers are much compacter than in previous years when flowering on the windowsill.

 Veltheimia bracteata
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 29, 2019, 03:42:35 PM
A teio of several white flowered narrow leaved look alike lachenalia

Big one is L backmanii
Middle is L. liliflora
Left is L. contaminata.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 31, 2019, 03:40:23 PM
Lachenalia media
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 02, 2019, 12:52:59 PM
Clivia ĎSahin Twinsí in nice light. Started from seed in 2007.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on April 02, 2019, 01:04:20 PM
Rimmer

Great color.

Like some pollen from the 'Vico Yellow'?

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 02, 2019, 06:17:32 PM
Polyexena odorata. I think this also bloomed last fall.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 02, 2019, 07:34:36 PM
The romuleas are coming

Romulea obscura-small one

Romulea salanhernsis - larger one

Winter hardy to 0F
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Steve Garvie on April 03, 2019, 11:32:10 PM
Babiana rubrocyanea
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7901/32588996227_a57172c02b_o_d.jpg)

Gladiolus carinatus
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7839/47531401551_aee97c0cca_o_d.jpg)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on April 04, 2019, 01:56:05 AM
Steve:

Is the Gladiolus scented?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Steve Garvie on April 04, 2019, 09:32:48 AM
There is a rather pleasant sweet scent to it Arnold.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on April 04, 2019, 01:27:01 PM
Steve.

Good to know your olfactory sense is intact.

That's the exact description in Goldblatt and Manning's book on Gladiolus.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on April 05, 2019, 04:33:46 PM
Just to show that Tulbaghia 'Purple Eye' is a cracking plant (bred in Devon!) here are pictures firstly from May 2018, then December 2018, and finally from this morning. Maybe I shouldn't boast, it's chucked it down ever since I took the picture!

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: GordonT on April 06, 2019, 02:24:45 PM
A pleasant surprise during our final day visiting South Africa, was the discovery of Brunsvigia orientalis in full bloom.
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We had spotted many spent flowerheads on the highway verges en route, so coming on a group of plants in various stages of bloom was wonderful.

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A  Southern Double Collared Sunbird was kind enough to demonstrate pollination while we watched. The spent umbels eventually detach and become tumbleweeds, scattering seeds in advance of the coming winter rains. One spent flowerhead didn't get to fulfill its mission... a hungry Eland ate it while we watched from the road!
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Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 08, 2019, 04:46:07 PM
Nice to see photos in-situ

Lachenalia violacae var. glauca
It is supposed to be from drier regions but i kept it too dry   A few waterings and it continued to grow and now a late bloom.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: YT on April 09, 2019, 05:41:43 PM
Moraea tortilis, Silverhill Seeds No.13059
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: YT on April 09, 2019, 05:46:40 PM
Lachenalia vanzyliae (Syn. L. aloides var. vanzyliae), Silverhill Seeds No.14084
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on April 12, 2019, 05:43:03 PM
The extraordinary flowers of Babiana ringens:
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on April 12, 2019, 06:05:58 PM
Possibly designed  by a  committee??!!  ;D
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: GordonT on April 12, 2019, 09:06:20 PM
Stunning plant, Paul! I guess I'll have to return to South Africa in some time in September if I wish to see these in bloom (probably walked past/over several while photographing Brunsvigia orientalis last month). The pollination story behind Babiana ringens is fascinating:  http://www.indefenseofplants.com/blog/2017/2/21/the-plant-that-grows-a-perch (http://www.indefenseofplants.com/blog/2017/2/21/the-plant-that-grows-a-perch)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Gail on April 12, 2019, 09:23:23 PM
Brilliant. And do you have a pet sunbird?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on April 12, 2019, 10:17:54 PM
If only Gail!
Gordon, I saw that web page before and also marvelled at this plant. The perch can be seen in my photo too, thought the photo cuts off the top of it. I only have the one plant - in the past it nevertheless produced seed, but none of this has ever germinated so I guess it needs a different clone to make viable seed.

Paul
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: FranÁois Lambert on April 15, 2019, 12:14:06 PM
Magnificent plant Paul
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on April 19, 2019, 05:30:14 PM
Geissorhiza aspera, from small bulbs obtained from last years SABG Seed Ex.

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Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Gerdk on April 19, 2019, 05:52:19 PM
What a showy plant!

Gerd
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Roma on April 27, 2019, 08:48:09 PM
Moraea aristata

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Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Steve Garvie on May 18, 2019, 08:55:46 PM
Lachenalia purpureo-caerulea
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40908578233_3d4515db03_o_d.jpg)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on May 27, 2019, 01:34:06 PM
 Ledebouria ovalifolia[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on June 02, 2019, 02:28:03 PM
Cyrtanthus sp?  This has been passed around the Pacific Bulb Society BX as offsets that the donor originally got from John Lavanos. It has never bloomed for the donor but it is blooming for me today. As a large pink bloom.
Does anyone know the identify?

I think it is a large Habranthus that got mixed in?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on June 14, 2019, 08:51:15 PM
This may be way out of sequence.

Haemanthus humilis. Was safely tucked away in the cool basement and I notice growth.  Put it outside and flowered it's head off.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on June 19, 2019, 08:25:15 AM
Nothing "humble" about that Haemanthus, Arnold!
Quite a beauty.
Gladiolus dalenii flowers late in the season so is at the mercy of the frosts - these have escaped so far!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on June 19, 2019, 11:23:05 AM
Fermi:

thanks, my G. daleni always comes into growth at the wrong time and withers and never flowers.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on June 29, 2019, 05:25:26 PM
cyrtanthus Spiralis- soooo pleasedthis bloomed. Survived red spider mite attack
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on July 18, 2019, 09:45:56 AM
Hesperanthus humilis in flower in the middle of winter
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on July 28, 2019, 01:04:43 AM
 Eucomis zambesiaca native to southern Africa, from Zimbabwe through Malawi to the Limpopo Province of South Africa
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on August 04, 2019, 08:48:05 PM
Dipcadi viride - odd sort of twisted flowers.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 08, 2019, 01:06:16 AM
Here are two pics of the same clone of Gladiolus cardinalis taken two years apart. The difference in colour is not a trick of the light or computer so why are they so different? The first is when the clump was in a pot, the second in its second year in the rockery.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 08, 2019, 02:48:41 AM
Here are two pics of the same clone of Gladiolus cardinalis taken two years apart. The difference in colour is not a trick of the light or computer so why are they so different? The first is when the clump was in a pot, the second in its second year in the rockery.
Hi Anthony,
The first pic looks like the G.tristis hybrid rather than the species. Did you get any of the hybrids at any stage? I find G.tristis seems to pop up in a lot of pots! The spawn are very small and are easily transferred
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on August 09, 2019, 01:33:36 PM
Cyrtanthis elstus x montanus from PBS BX 330 (Dec 2012) as small offsets. First time in bloom. In a 9Ē tall pot
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on August 09, 2019, 04:27:08 PM
All gone now

I have just 3 South African bulbs for sale on eBay this year:

Eriospermum dregei
Massonia citrina
Strumaria karooica

You can find them listed by using this shortcut: http://ebay.eu/1n3uCgm (http://ebay.eu/1n3uCgm)


Paul
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 10, 2019, 11:04:23 AM
Hi Fermi

As I only started with one corm of Gladiolus cardinalis, the photographs show the same clone two years apart.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 11, 2019, 11:36:03 AM
Hi Anthony,
have a look at the G.cardinalis hybrid:
https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/GladiolusHybrids (https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/GladiolusHybrids)

We used to consider it a Gladiolus tristis hybrid, G. colvillei
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 12, 2019, 02:12:28 AM
Interesting. Very like the first photo, but why do my plants now look so different? It's the same plant, just in a different situation. No idea what the parentage is, except I got a corm from a New Zealand grower about five years ago and it has multiplied.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: GordonT on August 15, 2019, 02:20:06 AM
Anthony, I believe the colour difference may have something to do with temperature and light during growth.

The late Dr Carl Withner described a similar issue with the genus Sophronitis, particularly Sophronitis coccinea. The red pigment is an anthocyanin, and its production is dependent on available sugars. When warm bright temperatures persist throughout the day, plants utilise most of the sugars they produce, just to maintain growth. With warm, bright days are followed by cool evenings, the plants have a sugar surplus that they can afford to use in producing anthocyanin pigments. 

The varied colour concentration in your flowers may be due to this sort of thing having happened, cooler and brighter when the richly coloured flowers developed.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ArnoldT on August 15, 2019, 01:26:01 PM
Gordon:

Wow, Carl Withner.

I was an undergraduate at Brooklyn College and had the chance to meet him on a couple of occasions.

He was a Prof there and ran the greenhouse top of the science building.

Always enjoyed his conversations.

Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Tomte on August 15, 2019, 02:38:25 PM
Nerine masoniorum is flowering here for nearly a month now.
This little beauty took many years to flower at all and had the first flower only last year, but now is seems to be taking off.. I grow it in my gritty standard bulb mix in a pot outside and keep it bone-dry in winter in a cooler place in the house.
A little past its best now, but still nice.
If anyone from within Germany would like some seeds (as they are thick and fleshy and should be sown immediately, and international letters not containing only documents have gotten pretty expensive recently), please PM me.. A few seeds should certainly develop.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: jshields on August 15, 2019, 09:15:18 PM
I think many flower species show a sensitivity of the intensity of their orange and red flower colors to the amount of light they are exposed too.  Production of red anthocyanin pigments in foliage and stems is a protective response to high levels of light and UV striking the plants.

It affects me here when I buy a nice rich red flowered Clivia plant in Southern California and it turns out to be barely red-orange when it later blooms here in Indiana.

Jim
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 16, 2019, 07:29:19 AM
Romulea tetragona has bright flowers and the exteriors are feathered like some forms of crocus!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 16, 2019, 04:03:13 PM
Bulbinella latifolia ssp doleritica - I'm resorting to covering the plant every time frost is predicted to protect the flowers!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on August 16, 2019, 04:25:15 PM
Bulbinella latifolia ssp doleritica - I'm resorting to covering the plant every time frost is predicted to protect the flowers!
cheers
fermi
Worth the  effort though, fermi!  How  much frost  could  they take, do you  think?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 17, 2019, 09:27:24 AM
Hi Maggi,
the plant itself can take it as low as -7oC but the flower stem is susceptible to temperatures below -4oC I think.
Other Bulbinellas like Bulbinella eburnifolia eburniflora [thanks to Erle for the correction] seem imperious to the cold
cheers
fermi

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Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 17, 2019, 09:56:14 AM
Bulbinella floribunda is also in flower and B. robusta and B. cauda-felis aren't far behind
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on August 17, 2019, 12:58:38 PM
I really  like these  Bulbinellas -  thanks  for  showing them, fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 19, 2019, 12:48:49 PM
The sweetly scented Babiana odorata grown from Silverhill Seeds many years ago.
The final pic is a hybrid which has arisen from this species crossing with Babiana pygmaea
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 20, 2019, 10:30:39 AM
Moraea tripetala in flower now
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on August 22, 2019, 08:43:22 PM
 Brunsvigia striata (B. minor) in bloom now.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Diane Whitehead on August 31, 2019, 09:58:07 PM
I've grown about a dozen species of Tritonia from Silverhill seed, and think this is T laxifolia even though I have it marked in a different bed on my garden map.  It is flowering now, in late summer, and the little yellow strips on the lower tepals are distinctive.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 09, 2019, 02:20:54 PM
Hesperantha latifolia with interloper!
I presume the larger one is a hybrid perhaps with H. pauciflora which we also grow
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rob-Rah on September 10, 2019, 01:23:21 PM
Hesperantha coccinea grows outdoors in the garden here in the UK and flowers well in late summer and autumn here. We have two colour variants, but the pink is marginally less vigorous.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 11, 2019, 01:49:21 PM
Not sure why this has taken so long to flower, though I may have missed it before this!
Galaxia (now Moraea) versicolor from Gordon Summerfield's seeds in 2010!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 12, 2019, 01:38:44 PM
I think that this is Galaxia (Moraea) fugacissima. We saw it flowering on the roadside on the way to Bendigo recently.
We got some years ago from a native plant nursery! Actually the owner knew they were "interlopers" and allowed us to dig some up from the pathways. This one came up in another pot!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on September 23, 2019, 08:19:50 PM
Lachenalia pygmea and pusilla

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Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Menai on September 23, 2019, 10:52:48 PM
Fermi I hate to correct an expert like yourself but it is Bulbinella eburniflora. It really used to upset Pauline Perry with whom I worked at the end of her life. Eburnifolia doesn't make sense. The error started in somebody's seed list and keeps recurring.
Apologies

Erle in Anglesey
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 24, 2019, 07:46:28 AM
Hi Erle,
no problems! I'm relying on my unreliable memory ;D
I'll correct the entry
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on September 26, 2019, 08:41:50 PM
The  Pacific Bulb Society  has  a  newly  updated  page - by  Bert  Zaalberg -  on  Massonia - see  it  here:
https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Massonia (https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Massonia)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 03, 2019, 03:05:26 PM
Fermi I hate to correct an expert like yourself ...
Erle,
I should have added that my favourite quote from friends who hated being called experts was that "x" is an unknown quantity and "a spurt" is just a drip under pressure!  ;D

Here is a small colony of a moraea I originally got as Moraea aristata though I can't be sure that it's not a hybrid
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: GordonT on October 03, 2019, 06:18:34 PM
Fermi, hybrid or not, it is a stunning display... if only they withstood US Zone 6 winters!
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 04, 2019, 05:59:19 AM
Fermi, hybrid or not, it is a stunning display... if only they withstood US Zone 6 winters!
Hi Gordon,
someone from South Africa on Instagram says it looks like the straight species.
I wish meconopsis would survive our climate ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: GordonT on October 04, 2019, 01:37:28 PM
Me too! The sole seedling I managed to produce from Meconopsis Lingholm seed, grew for two years, almost to flowering size, berfore turning black and perishing in our summer heat.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 07, 2019, 12:16:18 PM
Hi Gordon,
if they don't survive your summers!....
Here are a couple of very dark sparaxis.
The one with hardly any yellow in the centre is possibly what I think used to be called Strepanthera (twisted anthers)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on October 07, 2019, 12:20:32 PM
Here are a couple of very dark sparaxis.
The one with hardly any yellow in the centre is possibly what I think used to be called Strepanthera (twisted anthers)
cheers
fermi
   Oh my!  These  are  yummy! I love their  velvety  appearance.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: GordonT on October 07, 2019, 12:44:48 PM
   Oh my!  These  are  yummy! I love their  velvety  appearance.
I definitely agree, Maggi, two of my favourite flavours combined: Wine and Chocolate! ;D
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on October 07, 2019, 01:02:36 PM
I definitely agree, Maggi, two of my favourite flavours combined: Wine and Chocolate! ;D

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Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 07, 2019, 01:04:33 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Very happy to have Geissorhiza splendidissima in flower again!
Originally grown from seed from Miriam in Israel, I lost the flowering size corms in the winter of 2017 when it dropped to -7oC while we were away so I couldn't put the pots under cover  :'(
Fortunately an offset must've survived and thus week opened the first flowers
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 08, 2019, 12:49:33 PM
Pelargonium triste has come into its wonderfully scented flowering time  ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on October 08, 2019, 01:21:50 PM
Very nice Fermi, something I've never tried.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on October 08, 2019, 02:27:56 PM
Gladiolus murielae (Acidanthera, Gladiolus callianthus). Seems to like my garden they are never taken up and they even got through the 'Beast from the East' a couple of years ago.

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Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: FranÁois Lambert on October 11, 2019, 11:55:46 AM
Really surprising to see that your Gladiolus murielae thrive so well outside.  Mine only rewarded me with flowers after I started to keep them over winter at somewhat warmer temps than I do for my other bulbs.  I read somewhere they ideally need 15įC or more during their winter rest.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on October 11, 2019, 06:57:51 PM
A couple of inches of farm manure is all they get.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 12, 2019, 03:15:08 AM
That's an impressive clump, David! I must try it again - I think it got too dry here during its first summer :'(
Here's Babiana scariosa - I must rescue it from this "abandoned bed" behind our water tank
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 13, 2019, 12:57:07 AM
This yellow ixia was originally "rescued" from the roadside where it was a garden escape
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on October 14, 2019, 06:05:59 AM
A beautiful crytanthus montanus flowering
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on October 14, 2019, 06:11:10 AM
My first Moraea of the season. Cheerful
As ever; Moraea polystachia
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 14, 2019, 02:25:41 PM
My first Moraea of the season. Cheerful
As ever; Moraea polystachia
Hi Paul,
on this side of the world I'm now collecting seed of Moraea polystachya  :)
Here's a little mystery.
A few years ago when re-potting I had a few unidentified bulbs/corms which I threw together in a 3" pot and this week one of them came into flower. It appears to be a form of Gladiolus alatus! Which is amazing as I didn't think I'd ever got it to germinate! Maybe it was a tiny corm hitching a ride when I've bought something else?
Moral of the story: never throw out an un-identified corm or seedling! ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 16, 2019, 03:22:10 PM
Gladiolus virescens - scented like sweet violets
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 18, 2019, 12:12:40 PM
Moraea marlothii is quite tall and has done well when planted into a bed around some ornamental pears
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Diane Whitehead on October 18, 2019, 09:28:22 PM
I have been putting new labels in my bulb pots, using coloured ones to match the flowers.
So far I have re-labelled 60, and only one has an orange label.

I was surprised - I'm sure I haven't been selecting against orange, as I have lots of orange
flowers in the garden - dahlias, crocosmias, calendula.

Is South Africa low in orange flowers?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 19, 2019, 02:40:15 PM
I have been putting new labels in my bulb pots, using coloured ones to match the flowers.
So far I have re-labelled 60, and only one has an orange label.
Is South Africa low in orange flowers?
Gladiolus meliusculus
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: arisaema on October 19, 2019, 02:59:52 PM
Gladiolus meliusculus
cheers
fermi

That's a very lovely shade of orange, too! I've noticed one thing over the years, whatever genus, if it's yellow flowered it just does not sell... (But if it's the leaves that are yellow, people buy it like crazy!)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on October 19, 2019, 06:41:55 PM
Is South Africa low in orange flowers?

Hi Diane, While not having an abundance of orange colours (as far as the bulbs are concerned) there are some good ones. For me, Spiloxene is probably the best genus for really orange flowers.

Paul
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Gerdk on October 20, 2019, 05:22:21 PM
Paul, Are these Spiloxene outside all year long?
They are marvellous!

Gerd
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on October 20, 2019, 09:57:18 PM
Paul, Are these Spiloxene outside all year long?
Gerd

Hi Gerd,
The Spiloxene are part of an experiment I am doing trying various of the winter-growing South African bulbs out of doors. The experiment is new, they have been there just one year so far (planted autumn 2018). They survived -6C last winter and have just started to emerge again this autumn. I do have another planting of them on my crevice garden and they have been there for 3 years so far without problems. I have also tried planting some in grass to see if they will naturalise there, but again only one year so far. Many of the South African Bulbs are proving hardier than we imagined and I have written an article about this for 'The Plant Review' (previously called 'The Plantsman' magazine) which should be in the December issue.

Paul
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 21, 2019, 07:28:28 AM
Hi Diane,
although there are orange ixia species this is hybrid which arose in our garden (possibly a cross between a cerise hybrid and one of the orange Ixia maculata types in the area)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Gerdk on October 21, 2019, 08:25:05 AM
Thank you Paul! I guess these species are too tender for my region (7b).

Gerd
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 21, 2019, 10:29:21 AM
Tritonia securigera is another orange flower for Diane  :)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Diane Whitehead on October 21, 2019, 05:27:22 PM
Thanks, all.  I will have to select some of those for my next seed order to Silverhill.

Diane
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 22, 2019, 07:52:39 AM
One more, Diane!
Tritonia crocata
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on October 28, 2019, 01:28:06 PM
Polyxena longituba (Lachenalia-but not on my label!)

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Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on October 29, 2019, 06:57:11 AM
Dipcadi serotinum - beautiful in its own weird way
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on October 29, 2019, 12:29:21 PM
Massonia mimetica  was first described in 2013 from the Northern Cape, Kamiesberg. This is the first time of flowering for me and I think it is one of the more attractive species with cinnamon coloured leaves and pale yellow flowers with attractive red markings on the petal bases.

Paul
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: P. Kohn on October 29, 2019, 05:16:31 PM
Just spotted David Nicholson's picture of Polyxena longituba. It looks suspiciously similar to what we have grown as Lachenalia corymbosa which is flowering just now for the first time. The seed was from the SRGC distibution in 2017. Has anyone else grown this - if so would they agree with the attribution ? I notice that Polyxena corymbosa is a synonym. Pictures of corymbosa seem to differ from our plant except for the one from Kew. Help please.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on October 29, 2019, 05:33:26 PM
..... Has anyone else grown this - if so would they agree with the attribution ?

Yes, David's plant I would agree is Polyxena longituba (now called Lachenalia longituba, though like David I will not be changing my Polyxena labels anytime soon!). The Polyxenas have been passed around with incorrect names attached for quite a long time now.

Paul
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on October 29, 2019, 07:39:50 PM
Just spotted David Nicholson's picture of Polyxena longituba. It looks suspiciously similar to what we have grown as Lachenalia corymbosa which is flowering just now for the first time. The seed was from the SRGC distibution in 2017. Has anyone else grown this - if so would they agree with the attribution ? I notice that Polyxena corymbosa is a synonym. Pictures of corymbosa seem to differ from our plant except for the one from Kew. Help please.


The best picture I can find of Polyxena (Lachenalia) corymbosa is one example grown by Tatsuo Y. in Japan. This he showed in the 2017 version of this thread on November 19 2017, copied below:-

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Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on October 29, 2019, 07:43:58 PM
Yes, David's plant I would agree is Polyxena longituba (now called Lachenalia longituba, though like David I will not be changing my Polyxena labels anytime soon!). The Polyxenas have been passed around with incorrect names attached for quite a long time now.

Paul

I'm pretty certain mine is the 'real deal' The original bulbs were grown from SRGC seed 07/2424 sown December 2008.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Jon Evans on October 29, 2019, 07:56:49 PM
Polyxena corymbosa exhibited by RHS Wisley in 2013, and Polyxena longituba exhibited by George Elder at the AGS Kent Autumn Show just over a week ago. 
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: P. Kohn on October 30, 2019, 05:41:22 PM
I think I am convibced that we have grown longituba and not corymbosa. Obviously people are largely growing both as pot plants. Has anyone any experience of trying to grow either species outdoors in Britain ?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on October 30, 2019, 06:08:03 PM
I think I am convibced that we have grown longituba and not corymbosa. Obviously people are largely growing both as pot plants. Has anyone any experience of trying to grow either species outdoors in Britain ?

I have grown P. corymbosa outside (in Somerset) for just one year so far. It survived -6C last winter and has come into growth again recently.

Paul
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on October 30, 2019, 07:01:57 PM
Polyxena corymbosa exhibited by RHS Wisley in 2013, and Polyxena longituba exhibited by George Elder at the AGS Kent Autumn Show just over a week ago.

Jon, many thanks for posting them.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Jon Evans on October 30, 2019, 10:48:47 PM
One other point about the Polyxena which may be of interest.  When I first started growing South African bulbs, in the '90s, Polyxena longituba was quite widespread in cultivation in the UK, though often misnamed, so plants and particularly seed received as P. corymbosa, P. ensifolia, P. odorata etc usually turned out to be the same thing, but it was not known from the wild, and was only rediscovered in the Roggeveld about 20 years ago. 

The plants exhibited by George were grown from seed from the rediscovered material sown in 2001 (?), received from Gordon Summerfield as Polyxena sp., and have a slightly stronger coloration than the material originally in cultivation.  The shortness of the leaves at flowering time is not because of this, but a testament to George's cultivation skills.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Jon Evans on October 30, 2019, 11:08:31 PM
I just found some more authoritative information about this.  Terry Smale says:

"The common species in UK collections because it was sent over by Harry Hall in the late '60s. It is grown under a number of names because no botanist realised that it was a new species until 2000. The above name was then published after "rediscovery" of the species in the wild. "

The name P. longituba was first published by AM van der Merwe in the South Afncan Journal of Botany 2001, for material from two populations in the Komsberg, discovered by Gordon Summerfield in 1997 and by JC Manning in 1998.

AM van der Merwe says "The plants of the one population were meagre with off-white to very pale pink flowers. ... The plants of the other population were more sturdy with lilac flowers ..."
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on October 31, 2019, 09:14:12 AM
Interesting stuff Jon, thanks for that.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on October 31, 2019, 11:34:15 AM
Another  diary  entry  from  Jon  on the  AGS  site  - this  time  with a  viaduct  I didn't  know  about  (shame  on me!) and  photos   from the  Harlow  Carr  Show  :

https://www.alpinegardensociety.net/plants/harlow-carr-show-2019/?fbclid=IwAR2tzyZ37VIzMU2AEN4WDBZ44NEf5UKfwbv1UNphKHjrgJM7MSCWcX_XG1Q (https://www.alpinegardensociety.net/plants/harlow-carr-show-2019/?fbclid=IwAR2tzyZ37VIzMU2AEN4WDBZ44NEf5UKfwbv1UNphKHjrgJM7MSCWcX_XG1Q)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ashley on October 31, 2019, 02:21:32 PM
Massonia mimetica  was first described in 2013 from the Northern Cape, Kamiesberg. This is the first time of flowering for me and I think it is one of the more attractive species with cinnamon coloured leaves and pale yellow flowers with attractive red markings on the petal bases.

Nice leaf colour Paul; under glass?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on October 31, 2019, 04:45:38 PM
Nice leaf colour Paul; under glass?

Hi Ashley, Yes these are under glass. We do get a good degree of sunlight in our location which helps. I have two bulbs and have brought them into the house to keep them away from other Massonias so that I can cross pollinate them and hopefully get seed. My first priority with rare material is always to propagate, propagate and propagate, hopefully resulting in them becoming more widely available and grown in due course.

Paul
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 01, 2019, 02:05:51 PM
The first Babiana tubiflora is in flower
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Claire Cockcroft on November 01, 2019, 05:00:36 PM
Babiana tubiflora surely lives up to its name.  Lovely, Fermi.
...Claire
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: johnw on November 01, 2019, 11:38:46 PM
PaulC - Your Massonia mimetica is smashing!

johnw
halifax,ns
19c & drizzling today
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 08, 2019, 01:35:16 PM
I think this is Moraea lewisiae. It came up in a pot labelled M. gigandra which it isn't!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 11, 2019, 10:37:55 AM
Moraea lurida, grown from SRGC Seedex 2015 sown 21-05-2016; first seedling 23-07-2016; first flower 10-11-18
cheers
fermi

Moraea lurida is in flower again, exactly 12 months after the first flower last year. Darren Sleep recently mentioned that most of the European stock of this highly variable species are this yellow and dark brown form. I'm hoping there is a bit more variability in the other seedlings but that might not happen. Does anyone grow any of the other forms?
I later found out what sort of pollinators it attracts!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on November 15, 2019, 06:09:26 PM
Strumaria phonolithica (formerly Strumaria gigantea) flowering for the first time for me. This species comes from southwestern Namibia where it is classified as rare. The attractive fan-shaped arrangement of the broad leaves I think gives it great appeal even when not in flower.

Paul
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ashley on November 15, 2019, 07:04:41 PM
That's a beauty Paul, and I agree about the striking foliage.  Thanks for showing it.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Gail on November 15, 2019, 09:58:17 PM
Very lovely and almost too regular to be true ...
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on November 23, 2019, 09:10:44 PM
Cyanella Alba


I love the clenched fist x cream egg
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 24, 2019, 12:33:32 AM
Cyanella Alba
I love the clenched fist x cream egg
Hi Paul,
mine was in flower only a month ago here in the Southern Hemisphere! Does yours always flower in autumn?
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on November 24, 2019, 07:25:36 AM
FermŪ

Itís the first time itís flowered. I bought it as a bulb 2 years ago and it sulked last year with no growth what so ever. Maybe itís trying to catch up

Also my South Africans go out into the garden in August, new seeds in July, to make the most of the light and diurnal temperature differences. By the time the harsh frosts arrive - my plants are in doors under LED lights but chilled every eve with cold night air.

My other cyanella are not flowering- but the lutea has flowers coming - I love this genus. I saw they were tecophilia

Paul
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Gail on November 24, 2019, 08:47:08 AM
I hadn't come across Cyanella so was just googling and there is an interesting paper by Gillian Scott here; https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/82687786.pdf
No mention of fragrance? Do they have a scent at all?
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on November 24, 2019, 09:26:58 PM
Gail - thanks for link. Iíll have a look.

With regards to scent my lutea had a great fragrance last year. I couldnít smell much from the alba. Iíll have another smell at other times of the day.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 25, 2019, 03:51:14 AM
Thanks, Gail,
I've used the article as the basis for an application for a "WRA" - weed risk assessment - to Biosecurity to see if it can be legally brought into the country - as well as some of the other species  ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: YT on November 29, 2019, 04:23:22 PM
Massonia roggeveldensis, seedlings :)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: YT on November 29, 2019, 04:25:08 PM
Lachenalia punctata (syn. L. rubida), bronze foriage seedlings
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Diane Whitehead on November 30, 2019, 01:46:28 AM

With regards to scent my lutea had a great fragrance last year. I couldnít smell much from the alba. Iíll have another smell at other times of the day.

According to The Color Encyclopedia of Cape Bulbs by Manning, Goldblatt and Snijman, each Cyanella species has a scent.

C. alba - magnolia
C aquatica - lightly scented
C.hyacinthoides - violet
C. lutea - violet
C. orchidiformis - carnation
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: YT on November 30, 2019, 12:31:47 PM
Daubenya alba :)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on December 06, 2019, 09:58:41 PM
Lachenalia pygmea blooming in Kentucky for about the past month. blooms a bit later here than in Scotland
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on December 06, 2019, 10:05:32 PM
Does anyone know an identification for Massonia sp Addo?
this is Roy Herald's collection in Addo which is very different from the M sp Addo i have grown from seed ex seed (4th picture)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: ashley on December 06, 2019, 11:21:18 PM
The Herald plants look like M. tenella amoena.  In the pbswiki Bert Zaalberg considers sp Addo likely to be M. hirsuta.   

[Sorry for the confusion; meant amoena but wrote tenella :-[ ]
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on December 06, 2019, 11:50:49 PM
Thanks. Here is another massonia with a lost tag. Bloomed a month ago.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on December 06, 2019, 11:57:50 PM
Here are my M hirsuta (left 3 rows) M jasminiflora (3rdrow) and Herald sp Addo on right.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on December 07, 2019, 12:09:13 AM
Massonia pygmaea collected by Roy Herald in Renosterveld Modderfountein in 2011. Photo from Nov 1.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on December 07, 2019, 08:02:35 PM
Another strange Massonia. Came as M echinata (Kingwilliamstown) seed from McMaster in late 2015
2 new photos with first flowers open
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on December 07, 2019, 10:07:31 PM
Another strange Massonia. Came as M echinata (Kimgwilliamstown) seed from McMaster in late 2015

Hi Rimmer,
I'm guessing this will turn out to be Massonia inaequalis - should be able to tell when the flowers open properly and you can see if the anthers are of unequal lengths.

Paul
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: kvb on December 08, 2019, 01:44:13 PM
Kingwilliamstown is close to growing area of M. sempervirens but far away from M. inequalis. Let us wait to the full flower emeges.
I also have found out that there are more than one species Addo. Does somebody know from who these plants come from.

Chris
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on December 08, 2019, 04:52:17 PM
Going through Roy's notes the M. sp? Addo seeds came from Steven Hammer.

A reply from Roy:
The sp. Addo that I originally had was from Steve Hammer. I'm not sure if he or one of his friends collected it. Dylan Hannon might know.

That said, the M amoena (formerly M jasminiflora pustulate leaf) in your pic was from Penroc, and I'm sure I mixed it up with Addo somewhere along the way.

In the words of Forrest Gump, Massonias are like a box of chocolates--you never know what you're going to get!

Oops, I see you already posted the Steve Hammer info to SRGC. You may inform the cognoscenti that I mixed things up. Again.

--R
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on December 11, 2019, 08:20:20 PM
So now that it has been established that the first pictures are M amoena (formerly M jasminiflora pustulate leaf) from Penroc, i think that the second batch is also M amoena (from McMaster  as M as echinata from Kingwilliamstown).
The filaments are all the same length so not Massonia inaequalis.
I now think these are a large late flowering M jasminiflora due to the reflexed petals
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Hans J on December 15, 2019, 12:13:37 PM
Hi Strumaria fans

if anybody is interested for fresh seeds ( ephemeral ) so please look here :

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=17536.msg408366#msg408366 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=17536.msg408366#msg408366)

Sorry only inside Europe

Best wishes
Hans
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on December 16, 2019, 11:07:58 AM
Albuca humilis from seed from AGS Seedex 2013, first flowered in 2017
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: YT on December 29, 2019, 04:30:20 PM
Lachenalia viridiflora
From Silverhill Seeds
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Gail on December 29, 2019, 05:14:06 PM
Lachenalia viridiflora
Fabulous Tatsuo! Such an astonishing colour and they look really well grown.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: YT on December 29, 2019, 05:24:21 PM
Fabulous Tatsuo! Such an astonishing colour and they look really well grown.
Thank you, Gail :) As you know, my place is at lower latitude than yours and we have sunnier winter ;)
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on December 29, 2019, 09:46:30 PM
Ferraria crispa- first of the year to flower
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on December 29, 2019, 09:48:34 PM
This is such a cute little freesia. More than one flowering too - so seed for the exchange next year! Freesia verrucosa
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on December 29, 2019, 09:52:28 PM
Moraeas!
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: WSGR on December 30, 2019, 06:23:16 AM
Gosh! Simply exoticas! Thank you for sharing. Amazing colours! Least expected!
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: PaulFlowers on December 30, 2019, 08:30:30 AM
Gladiolus splendens - Somehow growing out of a velthemia capensis pot - taking it over in fact. Must be bird pollinated.
Title: Re: South African Bulbs/Geophytes 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on December 30, 2019, 10:39:56 PM
Daubenya marginata