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Seedy Subjects! => Grow From Seed => Topic started by: SueStephens on January 12, 2012, 07:33:31 AM

Title: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: SueStephens on January 12, 2012, 07:33:31 AM
Apologies if you knew this already, but I have just discovered that you can download Norman Deno's works FOC from Scribd.com.
Sue
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Maggi Young on August 24, 2014, 01:59:11 PM


These links to Dr Deno's "Seed Germination: Theory and Practice" and the two supplemental books are free downloads at the USDA National Agriculture Library online site. I know this book is out of print and nearly impossible to find. I hope this information is useful.


The books of Norman Deno are in the Public Domain so they are free for download.

National Agricultural Library Digital Collections
pdf s to download are linked to on each of these pages from the US site :


Seed germination, theory and practice
http://naldc.nal.usda.gov/catalog/41278 (http://naldc.nal.usda.gov/catalog/41278)


First supplement to the second edition of Seed germination theory and practice.
http://naldc.nal.usda.gov/catalog/41279 (http://naldc.nal.usda.gov/catalog/41279)


 Second supplement to Seed germination theory and practice.
  http://naldc.nal.usda.gov/catalog/41277 (http://naldc.nal.usda.gov/catalog/41277)


Also  see :
http://www.onrockgarden.com/germination-guide/plants (http://www.onrockgarden.com/germination-guide/plants)
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Maggi Young on February 01, 2015, 12:45:08 PM
Norman Deno carried out germination trials of many species. This  a useful search point for such matters:

 Links to Deno's papers  given   in the previous post....
also  see  link to Ontario Rock Garden's Seed Guide

 The websites of Kristl Walek and Gabriela Costea are also useful ....

http://www.gardensnorth.com/ (http://www.gardensnorth.com/)      and  http://botanicallyinclined.org/ (http://botanicallyinclined.org/)
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Maggi Young on February 01, 2015, 03:36:45 PM
In another thread, Karaba added this :

other indications on germination of Artemisia Genepi :
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Jack Meatcher on November 18, 2016, 06:39:23 PM
I have a copy of Deno second edition plus the first supplement to the second edition. Don't all rush but I can try to look up individual items if you email me via Messages. You do need to know the codes to work out what is being presented, however.

Jack Meatcher
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Maggi Young on November 18, 2016, 06:44:10 PM
Very good of you, Jack -  it is however, possible for people to download, free, Deno's papers from the   links above . Tom Clothier's site, in a link also given above is very useful.
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: annew on November 19, 2016, 07:38:11 PM
Great work, Maggi.
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: ian mcdonald on November 20, 2016, 11:03:50 AM
I used the free site some years ago regarding some of our native plants. I found the site very useful.
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Carolyn on November 20, 2016, 01:43:16 PM
Another very useful site for germination advice is onrockgarden.com which is the website of the Ontario Rock Garden Club. Very quick and easy to use.
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Maggi Young on November 20, 2016, 02:10:36 PM
Indeed Carolyn - full link given in reply 2 above (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8368.msg311376#msg311376).
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on November 20, 2016, 04:31:35 PM
Magnar Asparka also has a very useful source of information on his website. He gives information on whether seeds needs sowing in warmth or in cold and how long each one took for him to germinate. Go to http://magnar.aspaker.no/  (http://magnar.aspaker.no/) and then select "Sowing methods" from his menu on the left. He lists many plants I've not found info on anywhere else.

Paul
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Tristan_He on November 28, 2016, 08:42:05 PM
Given the current political situation in the USA I wonder if we should all make sure we have copies of these downloaded (including a copy hosted on the SRGC website if this won't infringe copyright)?
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Maggi Young on November 28, 2016, 09:07:14 PM
I believe it to be the case that Deno's paper, with his permission, were now copyright free.   Will check this - good suggestion, Tristan .
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Maggi Young on November 28, 2016, 09:29:21 PM
Dr Norman Deno's "Seed Germination: Theory and Practice" and the two supplemental books originated as  free downloads at the USDA National Agriculture Library online site.  The copies are available here to download from the SRC site. 

The books of Norman Deno are in the Public Domain so they are free from copyright so we  load them here as a service to members.


Seed germination, theory and practice

http://files.srgc.net/general/Deno-Seed-Germination.pdf (http://files.srgc.net/general/Deno-1st-supplement.pdf)


First supplement to the second edition of Seed germination theory and practice.
http://files.srgc.net/general/Deno-1st-supplement.pdf (http://files.srgc.net/general/Deno-1st-supplement.pdf)

Second supplement to Seed germination theory and practice.
http://files.srgc.net/general/Deno-2nd-supplement.pdf (http://files.srgc.net/general/Deno-2nd-supplement.pdf)


See also: http://www.onrockgarden.com/germination-guide/plants (http://www.onrockgarden.com/germination-guide/plants)
-for some reason this link may not go direct to the desired page of the Ontario Rock Garden Society site but you will see a link to follow there.
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Rick R. on November 28, 2016, 10:12:03 PM
Dr. Deno's information is usually  my first place to look for germination advice.  I use his extensive list as a base to which I add more information.  About 700 additions that include an additional 300 species so far.

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Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Carolyn on November 29, 2016, 09:15:40 AM
Thanks, Maggi, good idea to have these here. Unfortunately, the first link doesn't work, but the 2 supplements are fine.

 edit - link now corrected
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Carol Clark on November 29, 2016, 01:05:09 PM
Please note: The link given for Ontario Rock Garden & Hardy Plant Society's Germination Guide appears not to work. Please use www.onrockgarden.com (http://www.onrockgarden.com) and click on the menu item "Germination Guide"

 edit by maggi : This direct link should work:
http://www.onrockgarden.com/germination-guide/plants (http://www.onrockgarden.com/germination-guide/plants)
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Maggi Young on November 29, 2016, 01:26:31 PM
Dr. Deno's information is usually  my first place to look for germination advice.  I use his extensive list as a base to which I add more information.  About 700 additions that include an additional 300 species so far.



Well done Rick - lot of work involved there from you.
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Gabriela on September 25, 2017, 08:16:58 PM
Dr Norman Deno's "Seed Germination: Theory and Practice" and the two supplemental books originated as  free downloads at the USDA National Agriculture Library online site.  The copies are available here to download from the SRC site. 

The books of Norman Deno are in the Public Domain so they are free from copyright so we  load them here as a service to members.
Seed germination, theory and practice

[url]http://files.srgc.net/general/Deno-Seed-Germination.pdf[/url] ([url]http://files.srgc.net/general/Deno-1st-supplement.pdf[/url])
First supplement to the second edition of Seed germination theory and practice.
[url]http://files.srgc.net/general/Deno-1st-supplement.pdf[/url] ([url]http://files.srgc.net/general/Deno-1st-supplement.pdf[/url])
Second supplement to Seed germination theory and practice.
[url]http://files.srgc.net/general/Deno-2nd-supplement.pdf[/url] ([url]http://files.srgc.net/general/Deno-2nd-supplement.pdf[/url])



“To plant a seed is a noble deed” - Prof. Norman C. Deno.
Sad news came yesterday about the passing of Prof. Norman C. Deno.
His contributions to deciphering seeds germination requirements will remain unsurpassed and an inspiration for generations to come.
An obituary is posted on NARGS website: https://nargs.org/news/2017-09-24/norman-c-deno-obituary (https://nargs.org/news/2017-09-24/norman-c-deno-obituary)


Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Maggi Young on September 25, 2017, 10:09:23 PM
Sad news of the passing of  Norman Deno, whose work has been of interest - and use - to so many of us throughout the world.   Thank you for this notice, Gabriela.
We send our condolences to all his family.
Title: Re: Advice on seed germination methods etc - Norman Deno's paper etc
Post by: Maggi Young on April 24, 2018, 05:01:59 PM
There is some information of Native American flower seeds  here :

Klamath-Siskiyou Native Seeds:  Native Seed Germination Chart

"It can be difficult to find information regarding seed germination for native plant species. Through our own native plant propagation and growing experience, as well as long-term seed germination experimentation, we have developed a seed germination chart for species we often have in our inventory. This chart specifies the pretreatment needs for seed through cold-moist stratification (chilling requirements) or heat treatment, for natural or artificial seed germination, as well as recommendations for planting seed outside for natural seed germination. Germination rates can vary so your own personal experimentation is encouraged!"

 http://klamathsiskiyouseeds.com/2018/03/02/4495/ (http://klamathsiskiyouseeds.com/2018/03/02/4495/)