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Title: Galanthus November
Post by: bulborum on November 02, 2012, 12:54:16 PM
Here the Galanthus reginae-olgae ssp reginae-olgae I collected in Sicily starts flowering
later as normal
I forgot to water them (buzzy with the plant-shows)
so they kept sleeping
the good part I can see them flowering now
shows are over , but with a final surprise on the Saturday morning
It started SNOWING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
never seen that before here in October

Roland
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: John Aipassa on November 02, 2012, 03:59:40 PM
A garden fair with snow, well that's a first for me  :o.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: KentGardener on November 03, 2012, 07:13:38 AM
Brrr.  That first pic has made me feel cold!

I can see white emerging from between green leaves here - so hopefully should have my first snowdrops of the season within weeks.

Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Melvyn Jope on November 03, 2012, 12:21:22 PM
Galanthus peshmenii with the faintest of green markings
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: bulborum on November 03, 2012, 12:24:36 PM
Fantastic one Melvin
Here the first Galanthus peshmenii is just popping out of the soil
I wonder how many survived last winter
but I am afraid I lost a lot  :'(

Roland
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Pauli on November 03, 2012, 03:47:05 PM
Hello,

My Galanthus reginae olgae are just starting to flower (leaves in the foreground are Sternbergia sicula!)
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Melvyn Jope on November 04, 2012, 03:41:39 PM
Some Galanthus reginae-olgae in flower today, Sofia, Alexandra and a form with unusual shape flowers from Langada Pass Peloponnese
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: ian mcenery on November 05, 2012, 12:04:12 AM
Another form of R O I believe also originally from the Langada pass
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 05, 2012, 01:02:27 PM
All lovely, Ian, but the markings on 'Alexandra' are particularly nice, I think.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: daveyp1970 on November 05, 2012, 04:21:00 PM
Melvyn lovely selection!
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Pauli on November 08, 2012, 02:54:17 PM
Finally my Galanthus reginae olgae are in Flower!
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: bulborum on November 08, 2012, 02:57:37 PM
Nice clump Pauli
How much frost do they get

Roland
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: ian mcenery on November 08, 2012, 05:26:46 PM
Finally my Galanthus reginae olgae are in Flower!

An impressive clump Herbert

Here is my G RO Tilebarn Jamie in the garden
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Pauli on November 08, 2012, 05:44:34 PM
Thanks Roland and Ian - no real frost yet.

In winter it my get  -20C here, but it barely freezes into this frame, at least the ground is never frozen!
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: pehe on November 08, 2012, 06:48:33 PM
Finally my Galanthus reginae olgae are in Flower!

Herbert, fantastic clump and certainly worth waiting for!

Poul
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: KentGardener on November 08, 2012, 07:08:05 PM
Wow, Pauli.  Fantastic clump.   8)

I have struggled for many years growing R. O. in my open ground.

I think I spot a plastic sheet behind in your photograph - can I ask if these are grown undercover?   
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Pauli on November 09, 2012, 05:56:18 AM
John,
thanks for your kind comment.
Yes, they are in a frame,which is usually used to force vegetables here. The frame is closed from June to Mid-September and hot and bone dry.  Following Ian Young recommendations in his bulb logs, I fed them more the last years and growth as well as flower power improved. I find them easy also in the open, but outside they do not multiply at the same speed and flowers are often damaged by bad weather.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: annew on November 10, 2012, 06:12:54 PM
Does anyone know anything about Galanthus 'Autumn Beauty'? It was bought from the Wisley plant centre and is in flower now. It's not mine unfortunately!
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: mark smyth on November 10, 2012, 07:26:59 PM
Anne it's supposed to be a hybrid with reginae-olgae and elwesii but I think it's an early elwesii
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: johnw on November 10, 2012, 08:06:44 PM
The first three flower buds on corcyrensis x reginae-olgae 'Cambridge' h.p.   Seed was sown 9 April 2009  and sprouted late autumn of the same year.  Will shoot when open if they're worthwhile.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: mark smyth on November 10, 2012, 08:53:25 PM
John I think G. corcyrensis is G. reginae-olgae ssp corcyrensis
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: bulborum on November 10, 2012, 09:52:02 PM
Mark

Wasn't the original found from the Galanthus reginae-olgae subsp. corcyrensis
in the former Yugoslavia near the coast ?

This is what KEW says

You selected Galanthus reginae-olgae subsp. corcyrensis (Beck) Kamari.
Accepted scientific name:    
Galanthus reginae-olgae subsp. reginae-olgae (accepted name)    

Synonyms:    
Chianthemum olgae (Orph. ex Boiss.) Kuntze (synonym)
Galanthus corcyrensis (Beck) Stern (synonym)
Galanthus elsae Burb. (synonym)
Galanthus imperati f. australis Zodda (synonym)
Galanthus nivalis f. corcyrensis Beck (synonym)
Galanthus octobrensis T.Short (synonym)
Galanthus olgae Orph. ex Boiss. (synonym)
Galanthus olgae-reginae Leichtlin (synonym)
Galanthus rachelae Burb. (synonym)
Galanthus reginae-olgae subsp. corcyrensis (Beck) Kamari (synonym)
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: bulborum on November 10, 2012, 10:05:00 PM
Hans

I just saw that kevockgarden also has G. reg. olgae ssp. reg. olgae from Sicily
no idea where there collection comes from

Roland
See: kevock (http://www.kevockgarden.co.uk/catalogue_bulbs_extra_2012.pdf)
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: johnw on November 10, 2012, 11:46:16 PM
John I think G. corcyrensis is G. reginae-olgae ssp corcyrensis

Yup. I have it in inventory as "Galanthus corcyrensis (reginae-olgae spp.)" so I don't mix it up with another r-o from the same collector.

A bit of a taste of winter here today, brilliant sunshine and +4c.

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Warren Desmond on November 11, 2012, 12:03:24 AM
The first three flower buds on corcyrensis x reginae-olgae 'Cambridge' h.p.   Seed was sown 9 April 2009  and sprouted late autumn of the same year.  Will shoot when open if they're worthwhile.

johnw
A fine sight John... :)
might that be the norm..flower within 3-4 years from seed ?
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: annew on November 11, 2012, 12:59:35 PM
Thanks, Mark.  :)
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: johnw on November 11, 2012, 01:11:53 PM
Warren - It's by no means the norm here, I have no idea why they have flowered so quickly.  I'll check the records again and report back if I read or wrote that label incorrectly.

johnw

Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Melvyn Jope on November 11, 2012, 02:21:42 PM
A couple of  John Fielding G.r-o selections,
Heracles
JF 006
then G.r-o Autumn Snow and a G.r-o from Corfu
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 11, 2012, 03:41:41 PM
Pics, I like pics, much more than only text. Thank you Melvyn.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: johnw on November 11, 2012, 03:49:06 PM
Lovely ones as usual Melvyn!

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: steve owen on November 11, 2012, 03:56:27 PM
Does anyone know anything about Galanthus 'Autumn Beauty'? It was bought from the Wisley plant centre and is in flower now. It's not mine unfortunately!
Anne
Its an elwesii hybrid. I have a good clump in full flower. Its always the earliest to flower
 in my garden, sometimes starting in the last week in September.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 11, 2012, 04:08:43 PM
Here is another autumn poc: HERBSTFLÖCKCHEN. I hope it blooms in UK also.
The next is a green tipped Gp, nothing special but nice.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Wim Snoeijer on November 11, 2012, 05:48:17 PM
Just a question:

Is Galanthus 'Heracles', as refered to in this thread, the same as Galanthus 'Hercule'?

Galanthus 'Hercule' is pictured in Galanthomania, page 140.

Many thanks for your help.

Wim
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Alan_b on November 11, 2012, 06:14:28 PM
Its an elwesii hybrid....

I seem to recall there was some controversy on these boards as to whether 'Autumn Beauty' is in fact a single hybrid or a group of similar hybrids.   
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Maggi Young on November 11, 2012, 06:26:21 PM
Yes,  several members, including Steve had had bulbs showing considerable variation  :
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4230.msg119843#msg119843 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4230.msg119843#msg119843)
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Melvyn Jope on November 11, 2012, 06:46:58 PM
Just a question:

Is Galanthus 'Heracles', as refered to in this thread, the same as Galanthus 'Hercule'?

Galanthus 'Hercule' is pictured in Galanthomania, page 140.

Many thanks for your help.

Wim

Hello Wim,

No it is not the same thing, John Fielding named his Galanthus reginae-olgae Heracles early this year, as far as I know Hercule is a Galanthus elwesii selection.

Regards, Melvyn
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Wim Snoeijer on November 11, 2012, 07:18:42 PM
Thank you, Melvyn.

Wim
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: annew on November 12, 2012, 10:36:50 AM
Here is another autumn poc: HERBSTFLÖCKCHEN. I hope it blooms in UK also.
The next is a green tipped Gp, nothing special but nice.
Hagen you are teasing us - nothing special? What species is HERBSTFLÖCKCHEN?
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 12, 2012, 01:38:13 PM
Two beautiful snowdrops, Hagen.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: KentGardener on November 12, 2012, 05:51:00 PM
I AM VERY JEALOUS!   ;D    -  as I am still awaiting my first flower to open in the garden.

Melvyn, Ian, John and Hagen  - wonderful pics.  (and I agree with Hagen - we do like pics on here.   :D )

Hagen - love the fern as a backdrop.  And how can you say that is not special?!!!  To be flowering at this time of year I think that is a wonderful beauty for us to see.   8)
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 12, 2012, 07:12:58 PM
John, a jungle garden should  have a lot ferns in the background. But ferns and galanthus are not the best neighbours.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: annew on November 12, 2012, 07:59:50 PM
But ferns and galanthus are not the best neighbours.

How so?
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: steve owen on November 12, 2012, 08:54:32 PM
Visiting my daughter's where some of the bulbs are billeted, and surprised and delighted to see a good strong nose through the soil by the label "wor. Elizabeth Harrison" - much earlier than I anticipated. At least the local mice haven't had an expensive lunch!
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: pontus on November 12, 2012, 09:47:38 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/9087106/Mutant-snowdrop-sells-for-725.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/9087106/Mutant-snowdrop-sells-for-725.html)

It would have been the most expensive mice lunch in history had the local mice found their way round this specimen mentioned by the daily telegraph!!!
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: KentGardener on November 13, 2012, 04:45:46 AM
Thanks for the link Pontus - I smiled at the penultimate paragraph:

Quote
However with snowdrops suddenly becoming so valuable many collectors are now hiring security guards

Has anyone booked G4S for the New Year?    :D 

Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Tony Willis on November 13, 2012, 02:53:50 PM
Galanthus reginae olgae 'Sofia' from Melvyn ,a beautiful plant.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 13, 2012, 03:45:01 PM
Yes Tony, SOFIA is fantastic. The bulb here brings two flowerscapes!!!
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: steve owen on November 13, 2012, 07:35:28 PM
First roll-call of the season shows 48 varieties through the ground compared with 80 at this point last year, equating to a 50% reduction. Flowering times are also noticeably later. Still too early to see if the bulk-up and flowering rates have been affected.

All the usual suspects are now showing plus some unexpected ones.

The jury will have to stay out for a while on whether the intensified hygiene campaign over the recent spring and early summer has had a real effect on bulb health.

My pot-grown snowdrops grown outside rather than in a greenhouse or in frames are very slow indeed, in contrast to some of the appetising pics currently being posted.  :(

However the native nivalis planted in the verge outside are coming through - and the autumn colours in the garden are really quite magnificent this year.

The current score in the squirrel war is Steve 7 squirrels 0. My wife is egging me on to acquire some heavy artillery but I'm not sure whether she has the squirrels in mind or the person who removed my Carolyn Elwes.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: KentGardener on November 13, 2012, 08:58:49 PM
My wife is egging me on to acquire some heavy artillery but I'm not sure whether she has the squirrels in mind or the person who removed my Carolyn Elwes.

Have I missed something over the Summer months Steve = have you had a theft?   >:(
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Martin Baxendale on November 13, 2012, 09:10:14 PM
Have I missed something over the Summer months Steve = have you had a theft?   >:(

I was going to ask the same thing. Did it go walkies during an open day?
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 13, 2012, 10:23:35 PM
Horrible if that is the case.

I was in the Botanic Gardens in Glasnevin, Dublin, recently and was told that a lot of snowdrops had been taken from the garden.

It really is a  most unpleasant aspect of the snowdrop hobby.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: steve owen on November 13, 2012, 10:58:36 PM
Have I missed something over the Summer months Steve = have you had a theft?   >:(
John
Yes, afraid so, CE + two other scarce ones gone during an open day. I'm going to continue with open days but I have relocated some of the rarer bulbs to a daughter's garden and put in CCTV. Sad to have to do it. 80% of my drops (and 100% of the rare ones) are in plastic mesh pots now so that should slow up extraction sufficiently to deter a would-be thief.
Steve
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Lina Hesseling on November 13, 2012, 11:07:10 PM
Steve, this is so sad. People doing things like that.
It is great, you are continuing with your open days, and that you have taken measures.

Lina.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Martin Baxendale on November 14, 2012, 01:44:03 AM
John
Yes, afraid so, CE + two other scarce ones gone during an open day. I'm going to continue with open days but I have relocated some of the rarer bulbs to a daughter's garden and put in CCTV. Sad to have to do it. 80% of my drops (and 100% of the rare ones) are in plastic mesh pots now so that should slow up extraction sufficiently to deter a would-be thief.
Steve

Sorry to hear that. But glad you're persevering with the open days.   
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Anthony Darby on November 14, 2012, 04:00:59 AM
Calls for a "who dunnit" Martin?
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: KentGardener on November 14, 2012, 05:12:14 AM
I'm angry for you Steve!   >:(  Having people visit the garden is always a happy time for me - but I can only imagine the feeling to wander round afterwards to find things stolen.  The CCTV sounds a good investment.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Alan_b on November 14, 2012, 08:59:46 AM
Not again, Steve.  I remember you told me this had happened to you in 2011 and that was before your last garden openings.  No wonder you keep a close eye on what turns up on eBay!
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 14, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
Good lord, Steve, this is outrageous. I would be very upset by this and don't think I would allow people into the garden again. I have had it with people taking cuttings etc but nothing precious or important but it was still annoying and so disappointing after inviting people into the garden.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: emma T on November 14, 2012, 09:48:35 AM
wow i cant imagine who would do such a thing  >:(  some people are scum . "Carolyn Elwes "does seem to get stolen quite a bit  .
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 14, 2012, 09:59:57 AM
This is dreadful Steve, it's obviously someone who knows what they want.  Richard Hobbs labels all his snowdrops with numbered sheeptags (the left ear one has a hole in it if I remember rightly) stuck into the clump by a long piece of wire (from old coathangers).  The only disadvantage is that if he doesn't remember which particular snowdrop it is he has to consult the book.  It may be a good way to go.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: KentGardener on November 14, 2012, 12:42:54 PM
Hoorah.   ;D

Today I have my first flower of the season.

In the last couple of years Melvyn kindly gave me some of his 'not so special' seedling R. O.'s.  I've always struggled to keep this species alive in my open garden.   With Melvyn's kind gift I decided to change what I have done in the past and have kept them in lattice pots about ground (rather than plunging them into the jungle borders).

It seems to be working for me as I now have a lovely flowering reginae-olgae.   8)
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 14, 2012, 01:38:21 PM
John, I have had exactly the same experience with G. reg. olg. ; I simply cannot manage to grow them in the open garden. In desperation, for I am reluctant to do so, I potted 'Tilebarn Jamie' last season and it has done very well in an unheated glasshouse and came into flower a few weeks back. This was the only G. reg. olg. which had surviving bulbs; others have been lost. 
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Pauli on November 14, 2012, 06:16:06 PM
Hello,

I am so proud of my clump of reginae olgae, that I have to show it again, picture taken today with very low sun ;D
Here in Austria they grow and flower outside, but do not muliply as quickly as planted out in a bulb frame!
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: steve owen on November 14, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
This is dreadful Steve, it's obviously someone who knows what they want.  Richard Hobbs labels all his snowdrops with numbered sheeptags (the left ear one has a hole in it if I remember rightly) stuck into the clump by a long piece of wire (from old coathangers).  The only disadvantage is that if he doesn't remember which particular snowdrop it is he has to consult the book.  It may be a good way to go.
Brian
You may be right. I had considered the sheeptag solution because other label solutions get broken or lose their adhesive name or the plastic perishes or whatever. I've seen sheeptags used elsewhere and they seem to be pretty permanent.

Thanks guys for the other sentiments expressed. I cursed at the time but its onwards and upwards. I get great pleasure from looking at other peoples' gardening efforts and I shall try to maintain giving people the chance to see mine.
Steve
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 14, 2012, 08:13:44 PM
John,
it is a good feeling to have own flowers also in late autumn. With this moment your winters are much shorter.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 14, 2012, 09:17:29 PM
Steve, I use Alitag aluminium labels fixed to a length of strong galvanised wire about a foot long. I etch the name onto the label and so it is perfectly permanent. I push the wire down into the ground until most of the label in into the ground as well so that it is not too conspicuous but still easy to find.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: annew on November 15, 2012, 01:36:54 PM
I use code numbers as well.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Mavers on November 15, 2012, 01:51:24 PM
Sorry to hear about your theft Steve.

How do people manage to dig up snowdrops on an open day without others seeing?

Do you think they intend to steal a plant when they go to an open day or are they suddenly overcome with lust for the plant & have got to have it come hell or high water.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: steve owen on November 15, 2012, 04:05:59 PM
I was talking to the alpine plants sales people at RHS Wisley last week. Apparently they regularly lose alpine plants to unscrupulous gardeners who take the plant out of the (small) plastic pots, replace the compost, put the empty pot back on the sales table, and walk off. They showed me two pots of galanthus Autumn Beauty where that had happened that morning (it was only 11 am).
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Mavers on November 15, 2012, 04:11:50 PM
I know it's painful having to part with so much money for some bulbs but what pleasure can there be in growing a snowdrop that you had to become a thief in order to possess it?
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: annew on November 15, 2012, 07:38:26 PM
I think that might be part of the attraction for some people. The equivalent of trophy hunting, and the thrill of maybe being caught.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Alan_b on November 15, 2012, 10:30:11 PM
I don't imagine actually being caught would prove much of a thrill and news of someone being caught and prosecuted might act as a deterrent to others.  I'm tempted to suggest a 'sting' such as a hidden camera monitoring a highly desirable snowdrop. 
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Hans A. on November 18, 2012, 08:43:24 AM
Beautiful plants Tony and John,
Superb clump Herbert

One of my favourite drops - a Galanthus cilicicus with some more green - very slow in bulking up - but it does  :)
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 18, 2012, 09:20:46 AM
Hello Hans, it seems the whole plant looks a little bit greenish. My plants have more bluish leaves.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Hans A. on November 18, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
Thanks Hagen, those plants grow in an very shady corner - light conditions are not the best to take pictures and they seem to be less 'bluish'  than those which get more sunshine - here a picture of same species in a sunnier corner.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on November 18, 2012, 11:04:11 AM
Hans, all have a big apical mark. Good flowers
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 18, 2012, 12:34:52 PM
Great flowers, Hans
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Warren Desmond on November 19, 2012, 02:04:28 PM
Thanks Hagen, those plants grow in an very shady corner - light conditions are not the best to take pictures and they seem to be less 'bluish'  than those which get more sunshine - here a picture of same species in a sunnier corner.
Love the image Hans..flowers & setting spot on  :)
Warren
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Uli Lessnow on November 19, 2012, 08:43:09 PM
The temperature today was 12 to 14°C and Gal. 'Peter Gatehouse' and G. elwesii ssp. monospictus
open their flowers in the garden.
Uli
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: johnw on November 19, 2012, 09:04:28 PM
A nice little show Uli.  Only Cambridge in flower here.

re: Peter Gatehouse

Is this not the one we were trying to identify earlier this year?  I thought it might have been Carolyn that posted it, maybe someone else.

Ring any bells?

johnw
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Alan_b on November 22, 2012, 12:30:36 AM
The fairly full green marking on the inners should make Peter Gatehouse distinctive amongst the early-flowering elwesii snowdrops.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Melvyn Jope on November 22, 2012, 08:48:05 PM
A few images of Galanthus reginae-olgae seen in the Peloponnese this week.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 23, 2012, 12:15:47 AM
Fabulous to see them growing in the wild. Lovely shots. Many thanks.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Oakwood on November 23, 2012, 08:57:13 PM
Thank you, Melvyn! what the happy moments to eye the drops in the wild - all over the world! in the Peloponnese or in the Caucasus :o Every spring I'm looking forward to go to the Crimea, or Caucasus, or Bessarabia, or even around Kiev vicinities to see all these species in the wild!!! Thanks - nice pics!!!  8)
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Melvyn Jope on November 24, 2012, 09:29:38 PM
Thank you Paddy and Dimitri.
An additional pleasure on my trip to the Peloponnese last week was to encounter a site with several more plants than usual having flowers with four petals. I guess its all a matter of taste but if they are perfectly symmetrical I like them very much.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: MR GRUMPY on November 24, 2012, 09:51:37 PM
Melvyn,
Thankyou for the pictures.The split spathe makes this a really special find indeed!!WOW
More pictures please.
Steve
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Hans A. on November 27, 2012, 02:39:02 PM
Fine Snowdrops Uli! One of your monostictus has four petals? Is it a stable feature?
Melvyn, thanks to show such beautiful reginae - olgae growing in nature! Those with four petals are very special!

Here some Galanthus elwesii var. monostictus from spain.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: bulborum on November 27, 2012, 04:06:40 PM
That G.e.monostictus_2_12-11-25 is very special

Roland
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Uli Lessnow on November 27, 2012, 05:10:36 PM
Melvyn, thank you for your "Galanthus gala" of the Peleponnes. I like to see them in wild too.
Hans, your G.e.monostictus in the middle looks very nice and all the others are also very good.
My G.e.monostictus with 4 outer petals is stable (?) for the second year. Once I found a clump
of G.nivalis, 5 bulbs, all with 4 petals. They bring them again every year.
Uli
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 27, 2012, 08:26:30 PM
A remarkable selection, Hans. Each one very beautiful.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Carolyn Walker on November 27, 2012, 10:44:52 PM
re: Peter Gatehouse

Is this not the one we were trying to identify earlier this year?  I thought it might have been Carolyn that posted it, maybe someone else.

Ring any bells?

johnw

Hi John,

Fall chores are done and it snowed today so I am once again free to obsess about snowdrops on the forum.

You have a good memory.  I posted the photo of the unknown G. elwesii pictured below, trying to find out if anyone recognized it.  The answer was “not really”.  I since found out that it was selected from a patch of straight G. elwesii at the US Botanic Garden by an unknown gardener employed there, who gave it to his chess buddy, who gave it to his employer, who gave it to my customer, who gave it to me---isn’t provenance great.  I still think it has good markings.

Carolyn
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: johnw on November 28, 2012, 12:13:20 PM
Carolyn  -  I now see the marking is somewhat similar but the Bowman mark is stronger & squatter.  Is this the Bowmans of Rhododendron Ruby Bowman fame?

We too may get a cm or two this afternoon.

johnw


Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Uli Lessnow on November 28, 2012, 05:54:02 PM
Carolyn, Bowman is a great snowdrop!
Good memoryJohn,  in the meantime I hope you have some 'Bowman' bulbs.
Uli
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Carolyn Walker on November 28, 2012, 10:09:27 PM
Carolyn  -  I now see the marking is somewhat similar but the Bowman mark is stronger & squatter.  Is this the Bowmans of Rhododendron Ruby Bowman fame?

We too may get a cm or two this afternoon.

johnw

John- The snowdrop is unnamed.  Bowman is the name of the customer who traded the snowdrops to me.  I haven't seen a better X mark, and I can't wait to check it out later this month.  I will post photos.

I have already been admonished by a non-US galanthophile (who will remain nameless ha,ha) not to name this snowdrop.  Sort of humorous when you realize only one snowdrop has been named in the US and 1,000 plus over there.  Frankly, with CITES in place, the best hope for US galanthophiles is to select unnamed quality snowdrops and name and sell them legally in the US.  Importing unusual varieties hasn't worked for us, even with the proper documentation, and smuggling is not an option for me.

Carolyn
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Carolyn Walker on November 28, 2012, 10:12:28 PM
Carolyn, Bowman is a great snowdrop!
Good memoryJohn,  in the meantime I hope you have some 'Bowman' bulbs.
Uli

Uli

I am glad you agree that it is a great snowdrop.  I acquired 26 bulbs in the spring, and, after reading your comment I just went out in the dark and cold with a flashlight and counted them---they are all there.  Will keep you posted with photos when they bloom.

Carolyn
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Uli Lessnow on December 01, 2012, 01:37:59 PM
Carolyn,  I hope to see pic of Gal. Bowmann, please a little bit bigger than the last pic.
Have you any idea,  whether G. Bowman is available in Europe (or in the US)?
Uli
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: KentGardener on December 01, 2012, 04:25:18 PM
Hans... WOW!   8)  They are some great looking earlies you have there.  Really lovely   ;D

I've been struggling, over previous years, to get the early flowering, scarcely found, snowdrops in my little patch. It is around now that I feel the S.A.D. starting to grab hold....    :'(

If any other members are growing snowies that flower at this time of year  - please let me know  :)

Some pics from today:

1 - One of Melvyn's giveaways.

2 - reginae-olgae 'Ivy Cottage'

3 - 'Early to Rize'

Sadly some other earlies have been munched by the slugs   :(

- but hopefully next year I shall have some more chear at this time of year.
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 01, 2012, 09:36:53 PM
John,

I am having my first venture in to G. reg. olg. in pot in the glasshouse this year and was delighted to have flowers in mid October. In the open garden G. 'Faringdon' Double' is well up but not inclined to open because of lack of good sunshine.

Melvyn's giveaway is so elegant, very beautiful - as are the others though not as good.

Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: mark smyth on December 01, 2012, 09:41:51 PM
I thought the green tipped reginae-olgaes from Joe would have flowered this year. They made good sized bulbs this year. Single leaves again so I must wait another year
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Hans A. on December 01, 2012, 10:50:06 PM
Thanks a lot for the kind comments!  ;)
Fine plants John!

That G.e.monostictus_2_12-11-25 is very special
Yes it is beautiful - but it still would be nicer if the third outer petal would not look 'normal'.

The last of november - a green tipped beauty a generous friend gave  me: Galanthus reginae-olgae 'Annmarie Kee' 
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: KentGardener on December 02, 2012, 05:16:03 PM
Hans, I remember seeing photographs of your lovely 'Annmarie Kee' in past years.  And it looks equally excellent in December 2012.   8)
Title: Re: Galanthus November
Post by: Hans A. on December 02, 2012, 08:05:17 PM
Thanks a lot John,
Had heard this nice cultivar does (why ever) not show always the green tipps - here it does every year on all flowers (as also for example 'Jessica').