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Beechgrove Garden - TV programme in UK
« on: March 29, 2017, 06:26:10 PM »
The new series of the Beechgrove Garden begins tomorrow night- Thursday  30th March. 
 
Beechgrove Garden will be returning to your screens on Thursdays from 30th March at 19:30 on BBC 2 Scotland and on Sunday mornings from 2nd April on BBC 2 Network. (Viewers in other parts of the UK can also see BBC2 Scotland on one of the Sky Channels - I think 970)

On the opening programme of this season Helen Rushton of Bruckhills Croft Garden in Rothienorman in Aberdeenshire will have a visit from Carole Baxter - and I believe a photo of a snowdrop from an SRGC member may feature briefly!

 

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Re: Beechgrove Garden - TV programme in UK
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2017, 03:39:49 PM »
Yes, the photo of a rare snowdrop was featured  at the end of Helen Rushton's  segment with Carole Baxter  - but more exciting, was the sight of SRGC seed packets being  used in the alpine section - Brian Cunningham, an SRGC member and head gardener at Scone Palace  spoke with Carole  about the  specialist seeds available  - a little triumph for the Seed Team there!!
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2017, 05:05:02 PM »
What wonderful publicity for the SRGC seed exchange!
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2017, 06:28:15 PM »
excellent program - watch it on i-player last night

not sure about the fertilizer on the rock garden though

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Re: Beechgrove Garden - TV programme in UK
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2017, 07:43:03 PM »
What wonderful publicity for the SRGC seed exchange!

 Brian Cunningham of Scone Palace , one of the  members of the Beechgrove Team who are SRGC Members, spoke about growing alpines from seed  - mentioning that the seeds he was using were from SRGC Seed Exchange ... here's an extract from the programme's Factsheet....

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Re: Beechgrove Garden - TV programme in UK
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2019, 02:18:44 PM »
Not  long after the  start  of Beechgrove  Garden's 2019 series, the  BBC has  announced that it  would be taken off the  air for  several weeks, before  returning later  for a reduced season run. There is  considerable  anger at this, and  there  is a petition to sign is you wish to protest ....
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/keep-beechgrove-garden-on-air?bucket&fbclid=IwAR0RUss6ymlBK_PZt18hHWCbt-XEOf_yflHExuz_fLS2xvGm2Gvtj2nmSnE

This  document  is a letter that has  been sent to the  BBC on behalf of the  Scottish Gardeners' Forum... * SGF letter to BBC Scotland TV Channel Gardening.doc (57 kB - downloaded 39 times.)

 The  Beechgrove  Garden website  says that the  programme will return  on 25th July - and shows  this  message ...

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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2019, 09:16:04 PM »
Before coming on to Beechgrove I'll at least get my ten 'pennorth in about Gardener's World. The people who devise these programmes and the words which their presenters use in them are obviously certain that 98% of those watching have the attention-span and learning ability of a somewhat poorly amoeba and feel in the main that their presenters are somewhat similar! I think most of us, even those who rarely garden, would be able to make a 'stab in the dark' at making a hole and popping a cabbage seedling into it. I feel very sorry for the chap in the wheelchair, resplendent in a bright pink scarf, who was given few words to say other than helping some of the other presenters to poke into people's shopping bags in the last programme I saw. He was given nothing to do and must have felt he was only there because he was in a wheelchair. Similarly, the statuesque black lady is given so little to do...... To top everything else Joe Swift, who is only paraded occasionally, was set to interview the singer (who, in fact has a new record out!) Will Young, who obviously knows far less about gardening than he does about the inner workings of the Hadron Collider. It is to Mr Swift's credit that he was able to mask Mr. Young's lack of gardening skill and knowledge by his own depth of presenting skill.

I had a lot of time for Jim McColl and the programme is much worse for his loss in my view. I think none of the presenters have come across well in this series and this must be to do with the pedestrian production of the programme. Like Gardener's World it needs a shake up and needs to become a programme about gardening for gardeners. 
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2019, 10:18:32 PM »
It is my understanding that with the onset of the new BBC Scotland channel the opportunity to 'opt out' of the standard BBC 2 schedule has reduced dramatically and programmes such as Beechgrove that might otherwise have been shown on BBC2 are now to be shown or can, if so desired, be shown on BBC Scotland.  However, the viewing figures for BBC Scotland have seemingly been low and the channel's budget is being used to bolster its online activity so as not to diminish its presence. Accordingly, the channel may have to show cheaper programming such as repeats hence the reduced number of gardening episodes.

The BBC has said: “BBC Scotland has the youngest age profile of any BBC TV channel in Scotland, excluding those channels specifically for children. This tells us that our offer is distinctive and the fact content can also be consumed on our online and social media platforms is helping to attract a younger, more socially diverse audience. These are early days for the new service and the indications are positive. Beechgrove is a well-loved part of the new channel’s schedule and the programme also continues to get an airing on BBC Two network. In its new format Beechgrove offers more online and social media content, available at any time.”

The average age of viewers for BBC1 is 61 years and for BBC2 62 years. Though I'm an occasional viewer (of below average age for these channels) of Beechgrove perhaps we are all just being nudged (or pushed) by BBC Scotland to gain our gardening information and entertainment via other means. I do wonder when the programme returns in late summer when viewing figures are likely to be seasonally low (and particularly so on a minority channel) that the decision will be taken to move all content next year to online because of seemingly poor viewing figures (which will be construed as a lack of interest). 



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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2019, 11:22:32 PM »
Before coming on to Beechgrove I'll at least get my ten 'pennorth in about Gardener's World. The people who devise these programmes and the words which their presenters use in them are obviously certain that 98% of those watching have the attention-span and learning ability of a somewhat poorly amoeba and feel in the main that their presenters are somewhat similar! I think most of us, even those who rarely garden, would be able to make a 'stab in the dark' at making a hole and popping a cabbage seedling into it. I feel very sorry for the chap in the wheelchair, resplendent in a bright pink scarf, who was given few words to say other than helping some of the other presenters to poke into people's shopping bags in the last programme I saw. He was given nothing to do and must have felt he was only there because he was in a wheelchair. Similarly, the statuesque black lady is given so little to do...... To top everything else Joe Swift, who is only paraded occasionally, was set to interview the singer (who, in fact has a new record out!) Will Young, who obviously knows far less about gardening than he does about the inner workings of the Hadron Collider. It is to Mr Swift's credit that he was able to mask Mr. Young's lack of gardening skill and knowledge by his own depth of presenting skill.

I had a lot of time for Jim McColl and the programme is much worse for his loss in my view. I think none of the presenters have come across well in this series and this must be to do with the pedestrian production of the programme. Like Gardener's World it needs a shake up and needs to become a programme about gardening for gardeners.
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2019, 11:35:16 PM »
It is my understanding that with the onset of the new BBC Scotland channel the opportunity to 'opt out' of the standard BBC 2 schedule has reduced dramatically and programmes such as Beechgrove that might otherwise have been shown on BBC2 are now to be shown or can, if so desired, be shown on BBC Scotland.  However, the viewing figures for BBC Scotland have seemingly been low and the channel's budget is being used to bolster its online activity so as not to diminish its presence. Accordingly, the channel may have to show cheaper programming such as repeats hence the reduced number of gardening episodes.

The BBC has said: “BBC Scotland has the youngest age profile of any BBC TV channel in Scotland, excluding those channels specifically for children. This tells us that our offer is distinctive and the fact content can also be consumed on our online and social media platforms is helping to attract a younger, more socially diverse audience. These are early days for the new service and the indications are positive. Beechgrove is a well-loved part of the new channel’s schedule and the programme also continues to get an airing on BBC Two network. In its new format Beechgrove offers more online and social media content, available at any time.”

The average age of viewers for BBC1 is 61 years and for BBC2 62 years. Though I'm an occasional viewer (of below average age for these channels) of Beechgrove perhaps we are all just being nudged (or pushed) by BBC Scotland to gain our gardening information and entertainment via other means. I do wonder when the programme returns in late summer when viewing figures are likely to be seasonally low (and particularly so on a minority channel) that the decision will be taken to move all content next year to online because of seemingly poor viewing figures (which will be construed as a lack of interest).

Beechgrove always reminded me of Garden Time that was on ITV years ago - it is real gardening and very informative

When Jim went they then introduced a new woman who did recipes and cooking - she lasted 2 weeks - then off air - where was Chris Beardshaw?  What went wrong

Gardeners World is just a joke - I often ask the OH what did we learn from Veg Growers weekly?  Zilch

With the amount of cooking programs is it not about time they made a decent gardening program - tool reviews etc.
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2019, 08:01:20 PM »
A Scottish friend of mine tells me that he has heard (from a Scottish friend of his ) that Beechgrove will not be coming back this month largely as a result of the diabolical programmes put out this year so far. Anyone else heard this?
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2019, 11:16:04 AM »
The  Beechgrove  website  says the  programme  "will be  back in the  end  of  July"
( - I think 24th?) :-\   25th July  "on the  new  BBC Scotland"  - so it  may be  a case  of  finding it  on  i-player  for  others or  maybe  Sky channel 115    or  9 on Freeview  etc.  :-\

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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2019, 10:03:00 PM »
Beechgrove  back tomorrow  ......


 In Scotland - on Sky  and  Freeview - Channel 115
Rest  of the  UK - on Sky  Channel 457 and  Freesat  108

Also available  on  BBC i-player
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2019, 09:49:31 PM »
Beechgrove  back tomorrow  ......

 In Scotland - on Sky  and  Freeview - Channel 115
Rest  of the  UK - on Sky  Channel 457 and  Freesat  108

Also available  on  BBC i-player
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2019, 12:32:01 PM »
You're welcome, Graeme!
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