We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Cyclamen 2009  (Read 57076 times)

DaveM

  • Doctor Rock
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 423
  • Country: scotland
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #195 on: March 31, 2009, 09:28:08 PM »
A few more cyclamen from SW/southern Turkey - in fact all 4 spring-flowering species seen during my recent trip end February, beginning March.

Firstly, Cyclamen coum and C, pseudibericum from the northern part of the Nur mountains, NE of Osmaniye. both species were growing together in Quercus woodland at the same locality as Crocus adanensis. Altitude just over 900m. Cyclamen coum also growing in great numbers at lower levels.
Dave Millward, East Lothian, Scotland

DaveM

  • Doctor Rock
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 423
  • Country: scotland
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #196 on: March 31, 2009, 09:37:53 PM »
Cyclamen persicum: seen in their thousands at Yilanli Kale (Snake Castle), east of Adana. It never ceases to amaze me that these plants like to grow in the dissolution hollows and joint crevices in the limestone. Not much room you would think in which to grow their tubers to any size.
Dave Millward, East Lothian, Scotland

DaveM

  • Doctor Rock
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 423
  • Country: scotland
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #197 on: March 31, 2009, 09:47:16 PM »
And last, but definitely not least, Cyclamen alpinum.
We saw this at two localities. The first around a ruined Genoese fort at Gedelme in the upper part of the Kemer valley, SW of Antalya. Beneath a venerable Plane tree and in the crevices of the fort there are thousands of C alpinum. This is also the locality to see abundant Galanthus peshmenii in the autumn. The second locality was on the north-facing screes at Alvan Golu, near Elmali; indeed on the more stable parts of the scree where we saw Crocus baytopiorum. The propeller-like flowers are so wonderful.......
Dave Millward, East Lothian, Scotland

Gerdk

  • grower of sweet violets
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2153
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #198 on: March 31, 2009, 10:34:23 PM »
What a Cyclamen- dream. Just extraordinary!

Gerd
Gerd Knoche, Solingen
Germany

Tony Willis

  • Wandering Star
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2849
  • Country: england
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #199 on: March 31, 2009, 11:24:52 PM »
Great pictures and wonderful plants.A delight to see.
Chorley, Lancashire zone 8b

Paul T

  • Our man in Canberra
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8387
  • Country: au
  • Paul T.
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #200 on: April 01, 2009, 05:24:31 AM »
Beautiful.  The pics of alpinum in particular are just wonderful, but the wild persicums are pretty special too!!  So much more elegant than the persicums we see here.
Cheers.

Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9C. Max summer temp 40C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.

Oron Peri

  • Middle Eastern Correspondent for the Forum
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1415
  • Country: 00
  • Living in the Galilee Region, min. temp. 5c max 40
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #201 on: April 01, 2009, 07:07:20 AM »
Dave

Wonderfull photos, just wakens up the urge to travel.... 8)
You must have driven very long distances in order to see the four species.
Thanks for showing them.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2009, 07:22:20 AM by Oron Peri »
Tivon, in the lower Galilee, north Israel.
200m.

I.S.

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 510
  • Country: tr
    • http://crocusmania.blogspot.com/search/label/Crocus
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #202 on: April 01, 2009, 08:36:03 AM »
From Osmaniye untill Elmalı, that is quite long distance. But for person who has love with these small beauties, just like unforgatable dream!

DaveM

  • Doctor Rock
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 423
  • Country: scotland
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #203 on: April 01, 2009, 09:05:59 PM »
Thanks, I did enjoy seeing these in their natural habitats. Both Cyclamen coum and C alpinum were much more variable in colour than I have shown, but I do so like the dark colour forms.

Oron, during the 2 weeks we travelled about 4000 km! Arrived Adana, went east to Osmaniye and almost to Gaziantep: then west to Tarsus, north to Pozanti; then back to the coast at Side via Konya, Alanya, NW to Korkuteli, Elmali, Finike and departed from Antalya!! It was definitely worth it despite the indifferent weather.

I may have misled folk by implying in one of my posts that there are only 4 spring-flowering Cyclamen in Turkey. Not true of course, because in addition to the four I showed, there's also the later spring flowering C intaminatum - but that occurs only in the NE in part of the Pontics - and we really would have had to travel a verrrrrry long way to see that  ;D ;D
Dave Millward, East Lothian, Scotland

Tony Willis

  • Wandering Star
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2849
  • Country: england
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #204 on: April 01, 2009, 09:55:15 PM »
Dave you were correct first time,intaminatum is an autumn flowering one.

its in such an awkward place that you need to go specifically to see it. Nothing much else to see there in the autumn
Chorley, Lancashire zone 8b

DaveM

  • Doctor Rock
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 423
  • Country: scotland
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #205 on: April 01, 2009, 10:13:25 PM »
Sorry, Tony, I had a complete mental aberration!! I actually meant to write C parviflorum which flowers from April onwards  ::) ::)
Dave Millward, East Lothian, Scotland

Paul T

  • Our man in Canberra
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8387
  • Country: au
  • Paul T.
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #206 on: April 02, 2009, 11:37:10 AM »
Howdy All,

Cyclamen mirabile is also flowering for me at the moment.
Cheers.

Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9C. Max summer temp 40C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.

I.S.

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 510
  • Country: tr
    • http://crocusmania.blogspot.com/search/label/Crocus
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #207 on: April 02, 2009, 08:09:26 PM »
What about 'Cyclamen rependum Sm. var. rhodense   Meikle' (Endemic to Turkey)
I see this one also in Turkish flora.

Tony Willis

  • Wandering Star
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2849
  • Country: england
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #208 on: April 02, 2009, 08:53:11 PM »
What about 'Cyclamen rependum Sm. var. rhodense   Meikle' (Endemic to Turkey)
I see this one also in Turkish flora.

Ibrahim

Grey Wilson says this sub species is restricted to Rhodes and Cos. I am not doubting that it grows in Turkey but am wondering if you have a location?

It would not be surprising to find it on the mainland given how short the distance is.
Chorley, Lancashire zone 8b

Maggi Young

  • Forum Dogsbody
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 29728
  • Country: scotland
  • "There's often a clue"
    • International Rock Gardener e-magazine
Re: Cyclamen 2009
« Reply #209 on: April 02, 2009, 09:26:48 PM »
we've had good weather for three days.... but this Cyclamen pseudibericum has been out for months in all weathers....
118181-0
Margaret Young in Aberdeen, North East Scotland Zone 7 -ish!

Worry is like a rocking chair, it will give you something to do but it won't get you anywhere.
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye."

 

In Association with Amazon.co.uk