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Hans A.

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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2009, 02:28:22 PM »
Not the best exemplar but still the first bulb to flower for me this season.
C. variegatum.

It is ok that colchicum in the wet north start to flower before they do here - but in the still drier south - east... :o ::) ;)
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2009, 02:36:16 PM »
Not the best exemplar but still the first bulb to flower for me this season.
C. variegatum.
Wow - tiny.  
Would that be 'var minor'  ;D ;D
Mine look like this - and are in flower now too.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 02:38:54 PM by tonyg »

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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2009, 02:36:58 PM »
Infact Hans it regrated the minute it poped up from the ground  ;) ;D

Being more serious this species starts to bloom in mid August in the Eastern Greek Islands, when temperatures are still above 30c.
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2009, 05:34:05 PM »
Mark

a different pot of Colchicum cilicicum from the same area as my previous one showing the inside of the flower.The colour is true.
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2009, 06:16:46 PM »
Tony that is a beautiful C.cilicicum, great color.
 
Tony G. are you sure yours is C. variegatum?
Variegatum is much tasselled, star shape flowers, the dry leaves seems to be also much wider than in variegatum.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 06:41:40 PM by Oron Peri »
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2009, 06:28:13 PM »
According to Rod Leeds' book cilicicum should be short, pink and with a white line down each petal. This makes what I have as tenorei cilicicum
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2009, 07:15:22 PM »
Wow :o- all are really beautiful!

Finaly, the autumn has arrived :D
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 07:28:41 PM by Miriam »
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2009, 07:23:01 PM »
Tony G. are you sure yours is C. variegatum?
Variegatum is much tasselled, star shape flowers, the dry leaves seems to be also much wider than in variegatum.

I was sure until you asked but I value your knowledge so now I have doubts.

Here are links to web pages/pics that match what I grow fairly closely.  
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/ColchicumSpeciesThree
http://jimmckenney.com/colchicum_page.htm
http://www.v-d-brink.eu/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=72814

The third link matches my plants best.  I have two forms, below is a pic of the other form.  They flower at slightly different times but seem very similar.  The leaves are quite wide and pleated, the flowers are more tesselated than any other colchicum that I grow although quite pale in colour. 

I also grow Colchicum x aggripinum but the plant below has much larger flowers.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 07:26:55 PM by tonyg »

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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2009, 07:58:06 PM »
Tony,

In the three links you attached you can see that C. variegatum flowers are well star shaped with petals slightly or much curved backwords, and tessellation is very strong.
I tend to think that yours is a hybrid with C. aggripinum..?
I will attach tomorrow some photos i took in Chios.   
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 08:09:25 PM by Oron Peri »
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2009, 08:02:12 PM »
Tony,
this is my Colchicum variegatum.
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2009, 08:14:15 PM »
Franz please show a larger image of this Colchicum
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2009, 08:16:04 PM »
Opinions on this one please. All I know is I've had it a very long time and it's most likely a species or cultivar of a species. Flowering now
Height 10 inches 25cm
closed flower 2.75 inches7cm
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 08:20:30 PM by mark smyth »
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2009, 08:21:21 PM »
?C. cilicicum
Height 6 inches 15cm
Closed flower 1.5 inches 4cm
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 08:24:01 PM by mark smyth »
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Hans A.

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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2009, 08:34:48 PM »
Great Colchicii(?) everyone! :o

Tony - I agree with Oron - your C. variegatum (even if it is much larger than Orons 8)) is something strange. If the dry leaves are of this Colchicum they are much to large in my opinion.
I have a similar one as yours but until today no idea what it is (somthing similar or hybrid of  C. macrophyllum maybe).

Here two (old) pictures:
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2009, 08:41:10 PM »
Mark,
a larger pic.
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