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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2009, 09:04:10 PM »
Great Colchicii(?) everyone! :o

Tony - I agree with Oron - your C. variegatum (even if it is much larger than Orons 8)) is something strange. If the dry leaves are of this Colchicum they are much to large in my opinion.
I have a similar one as yours but until today no idea what it is (somthing similar or hybrid of  C. macrophyllum maybe).

Here two (old) pictures:
I think you have the answer .... and perhaps my memory is playing tricks on me.:-[  I think my plant corresponds to Colchicum macrophyllum, especially in the pleated leaves.  I will check the buried labels when I get home to see what they say.  Thanks to both of you and I'd still be happy to swap one of mine for one of yours  :D :D

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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2009, 09:17:56 PM »
Thanks.

And this is what I have as C. variegatum, with large-ish rounded leaves like fans, steadily going down in numbers. Is this because I grow it outside?
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 09:39:28 PM by mark smyth »
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2009, 09:51:05 PM »
C. variegatum isnt flowering just now.

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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2009, 10:10:56 PM »
Here are three of my Colchicum vaerigatum from different places in SW Turkey.

The colour is poor but I think the discussion centres around flower shape.These are last years pictures,they are not up this year so far.
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2009, 12:02:53 AM »
Wow these Colchicum photos are gorgeous, elegant shapes and lovely markings  :)
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2009, 01:06:44 PM »
Mark, your opinion-plant could be: Colchicum pannonicum = C. NANCY LINDSAY = C. HOLLANDS GLORY. I have this cultivar over 30 years. Over the years it came to me with a lot of different names. (Can it be that Your Nancy Lindsay isn`t the right?)
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2009, 01:38:01 PM »
Mark, your opinion-plant could be: Colchicum pannonicum = C. NANCY LINDSAY = C. HOLLANDS GLORY. I have this cultivar over 30 years. Over the years it came to me with a lot of different names. (Can it be that Your Nancy Lindsay isn`t the right?)  

This is what I got as C pannonicum "Nancy Lindsay" some years ago.  I believe that C pannonicum is now C autumnale, so it's C autumnale "Nancy Lindsay"
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2009, 01:52:06 PM »
That looks correct for my unknow plant. Thanks you two
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2009, 01:55:54 PM »
Diane, I see it like you. NANCY LINDSAY has rich colored flowers, is a gentle plant and blooms now.
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2009, 02:21:27 PM »
One plant I have in a pot is the same colour but narrow petals.
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2009, 03:21:42 PM »
Colchicum photos taken at Rob Pottertons nursery last year. 
C. beaconsfield
C. bivonae
C. bornmuelleri
C. byzantinum
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2009, 03:27:46 PM »
More colchicum from Rob Pottertons nursery.
C. cilicium purpureum
C. laeteum
C. tenorii
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2009, 11:14:00 PM »
.... and perhaps my memory is playing tricks on me.:-[  I think my plant corresponds to Colchicum macrophyllum, especially in the pleated leaves.  I will check the buried labels when I get home to see what they say
I have to apologise for starting a false discussion!  Checking the labels (buried close to the bulbs to avoid damage or loss) I find that both say Colchicum macrophyllum. :-[ :-[ :-[   One form from Pottertons, the other seed raised from SRGC seed dated 1997.  In my defence I can only say that I had them for years before they decided to flower and I have not viewed the labels for nearly as long!
Still, they are nice Colchicum so I am happy about that :)
Now I just need to grow Colchicum variegatum to get to know that plant better!
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2009, 06:06:27 AM »
Nice pics, Mike. Do you sure that C cilicicum PURPUREUM is real CcP. I believe, one is false - the flower or the label. My CcP is short without a white center but with intensive color a little reddish. And - it will come a few weeks later.
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Re: Colchicum autumn 2009
« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2009, 07:03:33 AM »
Now also TEUFELSKRALLE is in flower. It looks like HARLEQIN or JARKA but it isn`t. This Plant is a seedling of Colchicum bornmuellerii. Can you help please with informations about the both others???
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