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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #405 on: June 08, 2010, 10:01:28 PM »
Vancouveria hexandra is a nasty weed here, I've spent years trying to eradicate it.

E. sagittatum below, a huge disappointment, it was bought from China as E. brachyrrhizum :P

The reason I planted my Vancouveria hexandra way down in my dry woods under Sugar Maples, is for that reason, it is known to spread too aggresively, so I didn't want to take any chances.  In the 20 years it's been there, it has spread into a large patch meters across, but not as far and wide as I expected.  There are some spreading or romping rhizomatous epimedium species that could easily outpace this Vancouveria.

Too bad about your E. brachyrrhizum, one of the very best species, but it is also one of the most available so maybe you can find a closer source. However, your E. sagittatum does have beautifully mottled new foliage, even if the flowers are minute.
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #406 on: June 08, 2010, 10:06:50 PM »
A late season Epimedium miscellany, the colorful second flushes of foliage winning the day.

1   Epimedium membranaceum x rhizomatosum - a young unremarkable plant.  The flowers on both species are similar, although larger, brighter, and more openly spreading in E. membranaceum (beautiful), lighter colored, smaller and more clawed (incurved) with rhizomatosum (negligible).  The flowers on the hybrid are intermediate between the two, but the shorter curved seed pods resembling rhizomatosum versus the much longer straight "baggy caterpillar" pods of membranaceum.  As the plant develops, it will be interesting to see what spreading or clumping growth habits it displays.

2-3 E. grandiflorum var. coelestre 'Alpine Beauty'- light chartreuse 2nd flush of foliage over a low brace of smooth dark green hearts. Being an alpine species, the growth and flowers are late to emerge compared to most other eppies; the flowers just peeking out from above and the perimeter of the low dense leafage.  The creamy yellow flowers are rounded in outline and have a thick substance to them.

4   E. fangii - I really like the cherry red new leaves among the older dark green 3-part leaves.

5   E. diphyllum 'Variegatum' - a delightful small plant at all seasons, the leaves show variable leaf coloring and degree of milk-spot variegation depending on the season.

6   E. grandiflorum hybrid plants (E. g. f. flavescens 'La Rocaille' x 'Larchmont') showing a colorful second flush.

7   E. grandiflorum 'Lavender Lady' - small foliage so densely packed that the mounds are firm to the touch, the second foliar flush shows many shades of color.

8   E. membranaceum x brevicornu (#2) - new leaf flushes (many) are nearly all white and pink, and new flushes of small white and yellow flowers keep on coming.

9   E. x 'Amanogawa' - second flush of coffee color foliage and more white flowers coming.

10  E. brachyrrhizum - second foliar flush just starting to show, but even without it, the low mound of rugose-textured dark green leaves is most appealing.  E. x youngianum 'Otome' is behind on the left.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2012, 01:14:46 AM by TheOnionMan »
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #407 on: June 08, 2010, 11:13:32 PM »
The reason I planted my Vancouveria hexandra way down in my dry woods under Sugar Maples, is for that reason, it is known to spread too aggresively, so I didn't want to take any chances.  I

Funny, we had this Vancouveria spreading like mad in a peaty bed. One year in early Spring we had to re-dig and refesh the bed. We lifted and carefully replanted the V. roots and they never showed again, not a single shoot.

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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #408 on: June 09, 2010, 06:48:32 PM »
I got this unnamed Epimedium many years ago and it barely survived. However, this year it flowers for the first time. The flowers are huge - spurs nearly 4 cm. Not a good pic but perhaps someone can identfy it for me.
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #409 on: June 09, 2010, 07:12:22 PM »
I got this unnamed Epimedium many years ago and it barely survived. However, this year it flowers for the first time. The flowers are huge - spurs nearly 4 cm. Not a good pic but perhaps someone can identfy it for me.
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It looks sort of like one I showed pictures of earlier, of an unidentified new species growing at Garden Vision Epimediums; http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4769.msg151646#msg151646

It also looks similar to some of the lighter color E. acuminatum forms and hybrids.  Can you show a photo of a couple flowers lifted up to see the cup?
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #410 on: June 09, 2010, 07:30:11 PM »
I got this unnamed Epimedium many years ago and it barely survived. However, this year it flowers for the first time. The flowers are huge - spurs nearly 4 cm. Not a good pic but perhaps someone can identfy it for me.
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It looks sort of like one I showed pictures of earlier, of an unidentified new species growing at Garden Vision Epimediums; http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4769.msg151646#msg151646

It also looks similar to some of the lighter color E. acuminatum forms and hybrids.  Can you show a photo of a couple flowers lifted up to see the cup?

It is much larger than acuminatum (flower is). I will try to get a closeup later but today the concentration of mosquitos is about 4 per gallon of air where it grows. The heavy snow cover this year saved not only a lot of herbaceous plants but also a lot of obnoxious critters.
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #411 on: June 09, 2010, 07:58:48 PM »
It is much larger than acuminatum (flower is). I will try to get a closeup later but today the concentration of mosquitos is about 4 per gallon of air where it grows. The heavy snow cover this year saved not only a lot of herbaceous plants but also a lot of obnoxious critters.
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I hear you on the mosquitos... with record breaking rains (100-year flooding) in March, followed by good warm (to hot) weather almost all spring, means that the gnats were outrageous (also called may flies) earlier on, but they are mostly over now, the mosquitoes are terrible in wooded spots, around leafy vegetation, or anywhere near dusk, but the most infuriating are are deer flies (small, incredibly fast biting flies related to horse flies).  They zero-in on you, and then buzz violently and incessantly around your head, following one around the yard, frequently trying to land someplace on you and bite.  By the way, if I'm invited to a garden party, I'm the designated mosquito magnet and everyone else can enjoy themselves mosquito-free ;D >:(
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #412 on: June 10, 2010, 11:09:03 AM »
Too bad about your E. brachyrrhizum, one of the very best species, but it is also one of the most available so maybe you can find a closer source. However, your E. sagittatum does have beautifully mottled new foliage, even if the flowers are minute.

China is ironically the closest, cheapest and easiest source I have, being outside the EU means you're cut of from ordering from pretty much every European nursery - and Norway is stuck in the dark ages when it comes to horticulture.

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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #413 on: June 10, 2010, 01:36:31 PM »
I have a determination question too.
I received these pics from a friend today. They show the new leaf and two (very unclear) shots of the flower. My guess would be E. acuminatum. What do you reckon?
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #414 on: June 10, 2010, 02:08:56 PM »
I have a determination question too.
I received these pics from a friend today. They show the new leaf and two (very unclear) shots of the flower. My guess would be E. acuminatum. What do you reckon?


Hard to tell for sure; it does look like E. acuminatum, yet the spurs are very long and more outward reaching, rather than incurved compared to the form I'm familiar with, shown previously at:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4769.msg151634#msg151634

But then again, from looking at John Jearrard's Epimedium pages, it seems that the species is variable, and some have incurved spurs and others have more outward splayed spurs that look like your friend's plant.  The foliage certainly is handsomely colored.
http://www.johnjearrard.co.uk/plants/epimedium/epimedium.html
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #415 on: June 11, 2010, 09:23:37 AM »
I have a determination question too.
I received these pics from a friend today. They show the new leaf and two (very unclear) shots of the flower. My guess would be E. acuminatum. What do you reckon?
Looks like acuminatum to mee. The pic is from a plant bought from Peters and originally collected by Roy Lancaster so it should be correct.
My leaves (the ones on the side) look the same except that mine are all green.
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #416 on: June 11, 2010, 09:36:42 AM »
Thanks for confirming my ident, Mark & Göte.

I was in doubt because of the colouration of the leaves but there seems to be a lot af variation within the species indeed.
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #417 on: June 16, 2010, 11:13:26 PM »
Still much to do in "late epimedium season", even after most of the seed has been harvested and sown.  I've been observing some species and hybrid seedlings, and questions and objectives come to mind.  First, there's the everbloomer, E. membranaceum, each day presents 2-3 dozen flowers, large, graceful, bright yellow spider flowers (and much more seed coming).  This will flower until frost. 

New this year for me, is E. elongatum, I showed this a few messages ago, but I'm taken with it's delicate yet substantial upright habit, smallish pie-crust-edge leaves, red stems, and long succession of small to medium yellow starry flowers with red outer sepals.  It begins blooming very late, a valued characteristic. I'm always looking for Epimedium pollen this late in the season, and every now and then a second floral flush occurs on some epimediums, such as it did on E. x 'Amanogawa' recently, and I literally become giddy stealing the flowers and dabbing pollen on these two yellow eppies.

Still potting up lots of self-sown eppie hybrid seedlings, labeling which mother plant they were found under, to be grown on for 2-3 years until they flower and develop sufficiently, to determine their worthiness.  I find it surprising that many of the named Epimedium cultivars long established in cultivation originated as a "chance seedling" in this person's garden or that person's nursery, when in fact, I get hundreds upon hundreds of seedlings showing up each year (haven't named any yet though ;D).


1   E. membranaceum - close-up view of a few fresh flowers on my "pollen parent" plant.

2   E. membranaceum flowers up against Saruma henryi, this is my larger OP (open pollinated) plant.

3   E. elongatum - in center, with E. membranaceum pollen parent plant behind it to the left.

4   Planting ring under Cornus kousa 'Milky Way', up to about 120 epimedium seedlings will go under here in 2010.  This spring I dug out about 150 3-year old eppie seedlings from this location to other spots in the garden, some were given away to a local Garden Club plant sale.

5-6 E. hybrid from youngianum 'Liliputian', 3-year old, one of the most dense, tightest seedlings showing strong speckling and occasional all red leaves in new foliage flush.

7-8 Eight flats of approximately 25 eppie seedlings each (2010 self-sown seedlings); about 200 plants.  There are still many more seedlings to gather up and evaluate.

9   E. x youngianum 'Freckles' x grandiflorum 'Princess_Susan' - a spontaneous seedling near where both these plants grow, had the bright clearly separated white and pink flowers of 'Princess Susan', but with the strong speckling of 'Freckles'.

10  E. davidii seedling, showing some nice leaf coloring.
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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #418 on: June 19, 2010, 08:39:07 PM »
Mark - I had no idea we had Vancouveria chrysantha so I will watch for seeds for you. Ken says it came through last winter with flying colours. The glandular-pilose scapes are hardly discernible in the photo.

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Re: Epimedium listing: including Epimedium 2010
« Reply #419 on: June 19, 2010, 09:10:45 PM »
Mark - I had no idea we had Vancouveria chrysantha so I will watch for seeds for you. Ken says it came through last winter with flying colours. The glandular-pilose scapes are hardly discernible in the photo.

johnw

That's fantastic John, just look at those little golden parachutes! :D  What a terrific little plant; the trim leaves and black stems are very good too, this plant has it all going on.

If your clone does manage to set some seed, I would indeed love to try them... I'm sure we can find something to swap.  Thanks for showing this seldom seen plant to the forum.
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