We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Tulipa 2010  (Read 24543 times)

Boyed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 651
  • Country: 00
    • Vintage Tulips
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #135 on: April 04, 2010, 07:51:05 PM »
Janis,
your tulipa kaufmanniana from Pskem valley is cute. It resembles your 'Ugam' in appearance. What are the differences? Is it taller than 'Ugam'? Your 'Ugam'  reaches 55-57 cm during the forth day of blooming in my garden.
Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
Vanadzor, ARMENIA

Janis Ruksans

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2683
  • Country: 00
    • Rare Bulb Nursery - Latvia
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #136 on: April 06, 2010, 06:32:02 PM »
Now 8 something similar pictures but all they represents wild collections in Uzbekistan etc. and belongs to turkestanica/bifloriformis group.
First two were showed you before, too - but now you better can see and compare differences in inflorescence.
Some are named - buhseana and orthopoda.
Two are not identified yet as well as last from Sajasu and Oudzhasai (Uzbekistan).
From Aman-Kutan - T. turkestanica - is known as growing there
The most interesting is the last one collected on low hill (Kokcha mount) just at border of Kizilkum desert, really can be named as desert growing tulip.
Janis
Sorry, order of pictures a little different
« Last Edit: April 06, 2010, 06:35:53 PM by Janis Ruksans »
Rare Bulb Nursery - Latvia
http://rarebulbs.lv

Lvandelft

  • Spy out IN the cold
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3771
  • Country: nl
  • Dutch Master
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #137 on: April 06, 2010, 07:05:44 PM »
Luit,
Bulbs were certainly not affected by any fungus. I observed this irregularity on some varieties. Some after were thrown or given to some of our neighbours and every year in their garden they show the same symptoms though develop and bloom very well and make large bulbs.
Zhirair, today I talked with some growers and a man of The Flowerbulb Inspection Service, in Dutch ´Bloembollenkeuringsdienst´ and short ´BKD.
and your plants show probably a sort of "grey virus", which is probably not so dangerous for infecting other crop.
But if such plants are found here they will get taken out of the crop and destroyed without any discussion.
The growers go every week through their fields for controlling and people of BKD will pass for random inspection.
So I think the best thing you can do is destroy your ill plants. You will know that testing for virus and which virus it might be is very expensive.
Luit van Delft, right in the heart of the beautiful flowerbulb district, Noordwijkerhout, Holland.

TheOnionMan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2558
  • Country: us
  • the onion man has layers
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #138 on: April 06, 2010, 07:33:13 PM »
Now 8 something similar pictures but all they represents wild collections in Uzbekistan etc. and belongs to turkestanica/bifloriformis group.
Some are named - buhseana and orthopoda.
Janis

They're all pretty tulipa species, but what species are we looking at... maybe just call them T. turkestanica/bifloriformis group in general.  The only one that looks substantially different is the one from Kokcha with very marked difference in size and shape of inner and outer petals, and the yellow center looks different too... a beauty it is.  Also, it is hard to tell from photos the comparitive size of the blossoms; on the one I posted photos of as T. bifloriformis, the flowers are tiny... the petals just 22-25 mm long.  I wonder how the flower size compares between those that you show.
Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA (near the New Hampshire border)
USDA Zone 5
antennaria at charter.net

TheOnionMan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2558
  • Country: us
  • the onion man has layers
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #139 on: April 06, 2010, 07:36:42 PM »
Mild and drizzly today, better light conditions to take a photo of Tulipa polychroma, probably my favorite dwarf tulip species, one of the very best for the rock garden.  The flower in the center is an anomalous 8-petalled one, so is the semi-closed flower on the right.

If only you all could smell the tantalizingly sweet fragrance of these cute tulip blossoms.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2010, 07:39:07 PM by TheOnionMan »
Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA (near the New Hampshire border)
USDA Zone 5
antennaria at charter.net

Janis Ruksans

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2683
  • Country: 00
    • Rare Bulb Nursery - Latvia
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #140 on: April 06, 2010, 07:42:47 PM »
T. polychroma is very nice, but not for outside here - allways lost it in garden.
I completely agree with you about turkestanica/bifloriformis group. It is the way how I list them. In seperating importand are shape, intensity and position of hairs on tunics inside. By size flowers are more or less similar. Few can be seperated by other features too - position of buds - binutans - looking down before and after blooming etc., etc.
Janis
Rare Bulb Nursery - Latvia
http://rarebulbs.lv

Boyed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 651
  • Country: 00
    • Vintage Tulips
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #141 on: April 06, 2010, 08:19:59 PM »
Luit,
Bulbs were certainly not affected by any fungus. I observed this irregularity on some varieties. Some after were thrown or given to some of our neighbours and every year in their garden they show the same symptoms though develop and bloom very well and make large bulbs.
Zhirair, today I talked with some growers and a man of The Flowerbulb Inspection Service, in Dutch ´Bloembollenkeuringsdienst´ and short ´BKD.
and your plants show probably a sort of "grey virus", which is probably not so dangerous for infecting other crop.
But if such plants are found here they will get taken out of the crop and destroyed without any discussion.
The growers go every week through their fields for controlling and people of BKD will pass for random inspection.
So I think the best thing you can do is destroy your ill plants. You will know that testing for virus and which virus it might be is very expensive.

Luit,
Thanks a lot, for your help! I very appreciate it!
That's very true, this decease is not so dangerous for infecting other stocks. Tulipa 'Purissima' infected with this decease grows for 10 years in my colleague's garden and we didn't notice that it infected the other varieties over the years. The other infected new-comer plants grown for a year in my garden never infected other varieties. I didn't trash my 'Holland National' for its exceptional beauty and kept it for another year for further investigations, as nowadays it is not so easy-to-find cultivar. But I found a grower in Tambov region (Russia) and will replace my stock this year.
Again thanks a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
Vanadzor, ARMENIA

Lvandelft

  • Spy out IN the cold
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3771
  • Country: nl
  • Dutch Master
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #142 on: April 07, 2010, 07:24:17 AM »
You're welcome Zhirair. Could you show a flower of such plant later too?

Some new pictures of the Tulipa fosteriana Group from the Connoisseur Collection:
If someone likes them there are a few more.

Tulipa Scherzo            
Tulipa Dance                      
Tulipa Intermezzo              
Tulipa Yellow Empress                  
Tulipa Finale
« Last Edit: April 07, 2010, 07:25:48 AM by Lvandelft »
Luit van Delft, right in the heart of the beautiful flowerbulb district, Noordwijkerhout, Holland.

Boyed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 651
  • Country: 00
    • Vintage Tulips
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #143 on: April 07, 2010, 07:35:19 PM »
Luit,
I will show the flowers, when they open. Though I should say that flowers of those suspecious plants have a regular look and don't show any colour irregularity or deformation.
Thanks a lot for sharing those wonderful fosteriana tulip shots from Connoisseur Collection. All are nice, especially 'Intermezzo' and 'Yellow Empress'. Would be very happy to see more photos of rarities.

Some tulip shots from my collection. The varieties blooming currently:
biflora  (native form)
kaufmanniana 'Aistionok' ('Stork Cub') - Z.P. Botschantseva (very bold vigorous tall tulip, differs from Janis' 'Ugam' by wider and shorter leaves)
fosteriana 'Grand Prix' from small bulbs                 
Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
Vanadzor, ARMENIA

Boyed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 651
  • Country: 00
    • Vintage Tulips
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #144 on: April 07, 2010, 07:53:07 PM »
more photos

greigii 'Longfellow'
greigii 'Lovely Surprise'
greigii 'Royal Lovely Surprise'
greigii 'Melody d' Amour'

more shots to come soon
Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
Vanadzor, ARMENIA

Luc Gilgemyn

  • Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5090
  • Country: be
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #145 on: April 07, 2010, 08:49:29 PM »
Great tulips everyone !!  :D :D


I also have some Tulips in flower - most of them from Janis' stable :  ;D

1 & 2 my favourite : Tulipa greigii "Sunset"

Already shown a few days ago, but now more developped :

3-4-5 : Tulipa dubia beldersai

6-7-8 : Tulipa vvedenskyi x berkariense 'Morning Star'

9 & 10 : Tulipa vvedenskyi x mogoltavica 'Girlfriend'
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

Boyed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 651
  • Country: 00
    • Vintage Tulips
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #146 on: April 07, 2010, 09:01:53 PM »
Beutiful shots Luc!

'Girlfirend is, indeed, a very nice tulip. It's only shortcoming is that it doen't last long.
'Sunset' is among my favourites and also very loved by my visitors. The first year it was short 25 cm tall in my garden, but later after adaptation it always reaches 45 cm.

Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
Vanadzor, ARMENIA

Luc Gilgemyn

  • Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5090
  • Country: be
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #147 on: April 07, 2010, 09:04:54 PM »
Beutiful shots Luc!

'Girlfirend is, indeed, a very nice tulip. It's only shortcoming is that it doen't last long.
'Sunset' is among my favourites and also very loved by my visitors. The first year it was short 25 cm tall in my garden, but later after adaptation it always reaches 45 cm.


The weather is excellent for the tulips this year Zhirair, not too warm, not too cold, not much rain - I think Girfriend will stay ok for 2 weeks !!  :D

It's the second year 'Sunset' is flowering for me Zhirair - I hope it stays as short as it is right now.
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

Janis Ruksans

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2683
  • Country: 00
    • Rare Bulb Nursery - Latvia
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #148 on: April 08, 2010, 05:50:49 AM »
Great tulips everyone !!  :D :D


I also have some Tulips in flower - most of them from Janis' stable :  ;D

1 & 2 my favourite : Tulipa greigii "Sunset"

Already shown a few days ago, but now more developped :

3-4-5 : Tulipa dubia beldersai

6-7-8 : Tulipa vvedenskyi x berkariense 'Morning Star'

9 & 10 : Tulipa vvedenskyi x mogoltavica 'Girlfriend'


MORNING STAR - not correct, true is white with large yellow centre, small bulbs long side growing stolones. Later will post picture.

Tulipa greigii SUNSET - all my stock on open bed eaten this winter by rodents, left few bulbs in pots. Lost some 15-20 stocks this winter.

Janis
Rare Bulb Nursery - Latvia
http://rarebulbs.lv

Ragged Robin

  • cogent commentator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3495
  • Country: 00
  • in search of all things wild and wonderful
Re: Tulipa 2010
« Reply #149 on: April 08, 2010, 09:40:58 AM »
Luc, your tulips are glorious and I particularly like:

Quote
1 & 2 my favourite : Tulipa greigii "Sunset"

It looks very short stemmed sitting in the leaves, like a firey glow  :D
Valais, Switzerland - 1,200 metres - Continental climate - rocks and moraine