We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield  (Read 10777 times)

Paul Cumbleton

  • Pleione Wizard
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 312
  • Country: 00
    • The Pleione Website
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2010, 06:43:39 PM »
It is worth mentioning that Ian says this variegated clone of Captain Hook is not stable - some years it comes variegated but other years the leaves are plain green. I have occasionally had variegated seedlings arise in my breeding programme, but they are often weak and don't live long or unstable and unreliable in producing their variegation just like this Captain Hook of Ians. At present, as a result, I have just one tiny variegated bulb on its last legs and not expected to last the season, and a clone of P. scopulorum that sometimes produces leaves with a single white stripe down the leaf.

Paul
Paul Cumbleton, Staines, Middlesex, U.K. Zone 8

I occasionally sell spare plants on ebay -
see http://ebay.eu/1n3uCgm

http://www.pleione.info/

Maren

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1373
  • Maren & Pln Tongariro
    • Heritage Orchids
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2010, 08:23:06 PM »
Hi Paul,
thank you for pointing that out. I bought a variegated form of formosana some years ago and they did just what you said. I thought it was due to my bad cultivation. Feel a bit better now. Cheers.

How are your pleiones doing? I hope they are in fine fettle. Mine just seem to want to go on and on. A late season, I expect. I have had to take some out of their pots because the new bulbs were getting too big for them and the pots were being deformed. Bit of a nuisance but good news all the same. :)
« Last Edit: September 16, 2010, 10:14:03 AM by Maren »
Maren in Marlow, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom - Zone 8

http://www.heritageorchids.co.uk/

Maren

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1373
  • Maren & Pln Tongariro
    • Heritage Orchids
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2010, 10:13:39 AM »
Hi Luc,

Pleione magelik "Black..." (sorry, missed the rest of the name...  :'()

this is called Pleione Mageik 'Black Kite'.
Maren in Marlow, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom - Zone 8

http://www.heritageorchids.co.uk/

Luc Gilgemyn

  • Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5098
  • Country: be
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2010, 10:30:07 AM »
Thanks for pointing that out Maren - it really could have been named "black magic" : it's superb !
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

giorchids

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 1
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2010, 01:37:28 PM »
prova

Maren

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1373
  • Maren & Pln Tongariro
    • Heritage Orchids
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2010, 03:23:46 PM »
Scusi?
« Last Edit: September 19, 2010, 03:48:55 PM by Maren »
Maren in Marlow, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom - Zone 8

http://www.heritageorchids.co.uk/

Maren

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1373
  • Maren & Pln Tongariro
    • Heritage Orchids
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2010, 10:14:09 AM »
Hi,

just passed Ian' nursery and took a rather inferior pic of Pln. scopulorum, two flowers on one bulb and another one behind, and losts of buds showing. Droooool.

And he also showed me some enviable pots and bowls of Pln maculata, one in flower and the others budding nicely. He grows these in a room upstairs all year round. What a plantsman!!
« Last Edit: October 06, 2010, 09:12:05 AM by Maren »
Maren in Marlow, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom - Zone 8

http://www.heritageorchids.co.uk/

karel_t

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 205
  • Country: cz
  • Pleione Wizard's Apprentice
    • The Czech Pleione Website
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2010, 11:01:50 AM »
I'm sorry Maren to disappoint you, but that is P. saxicola not P. scopulorum. However, very nice!!!
Karel.
Prague, Czech Republic
www.pleione.cz

Slug Killer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 707
  • Country: 00
    • Koolplants
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2010, 08:15:22 PM »
Simple slip of the tongue I think by Maren.

Have done the same on many occasions writing labels for these two.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2010, 07:41:58 PM by Slug Killer »

Maren

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1373
  • Maren & Pln Tongariro
    • Heritage Orchids
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2010, 03:42:28 PM »
Pln saxicola indeed, slip of the tongue (or brain), sorry, my mind was elsewhere, thanks for putting it right. ;) :)
« Last Edit: October 06, 2010, 09:14:15 AM by Maren »
Maren in Marlow, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom - Zone 8

http://www.heritageorchids.co.uk/

Maren

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1373
  • Maren & Pln Tongariro
    • Heritage Orchids
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2010, 11:36:40 PM »
Ian brought a bowl of outstanding beauty to an orchid society meeting last Thursday, which prompted me to pop in to take another look and a photo. To my delight, he brought along two more bowls, equally stunning. These plants are natural and artificial hybrids; all have Pln maculata in them and therefore they require warmer temperatures than your 'normal' pleione. Ian grows them on a bedroom windowsill during the colder part of the year (October to May) and in his pleione house for the rest of the year.

Pln Lagenaria (maculata x praecox) natural hybrid
Pln Confirmation (maculata x praecox) bred by the late Jan Berg
Pln Liz Shan 'Pretty Girl' (Lagenaria x maculata) also bred by Jan Berg
Maren in Marlow, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom - Zone 8

http://www.heritageorchids.co.uk/

Maggi Young

  • Forum Dogsbody
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 29569
  • Country: scotland
  • "There's often a clue"
    • International Rock Gardener e-magazine
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2010, 08:12:03 AM »
Pleione maculata is such a gorgeous flower it is no wonder these hybrids are so pretty with those great markings. A treat to see them, Maren..... thanks to you and to Ian B!
Margaret Young in Aberdeen, North East Scotland Zone 7 -ish!

Worry is like a rocking chair, it will give you something to do but it won't get you anywhere.
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye."

Luc Gilgemyn

  • Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5098
  • Country: be
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2010, 07:23:27 PM »
Stunning flowers Maren !  These pans look out of this world !  :o :o
Thanks so much for showing them !  :-* :-*
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

karel_t

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 205
  • Country: cz
  • Pleione Wizard's Apprentice
    • The Czech Pleione Website
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2010, 12:38:00 PM »
Maren, thanks for showing these amazing Ianís plants. ;D ;D
The lip marking of P. Liz Shan is really very nice.

However, one thinking:
As we can see, P. x lagenaria, Confirmation and Liz Shan are looking very similar because they have a same parents. I discussed with Ian about his hybrid P. Lassen Peak (P. praecox x P. x lagenaria) and he was very disappointed with result of this crossing. So I think we should better choose the parent for hybridisation and our aim should be to obtain new shape, colour, flowering time, etc. I think, make the next hybrids like this is a little bit unneeded.
K.
Prague, Czech Republic
www.pleione.cz

Maren

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1373
  • Maren & Pln Tongariro
    • Heritage Orchids
Re: Visit to the Pleione nursery of Ian Butterfield
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2010, 07:56:37 PM »
Hi Karel, I guess it's: some you win and some you loose. I have noticed that one doesn't always get what one expects or would like.  :) ;) ;)
Maren in Marlow, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom - Zone 8

http://www.heritageorchids.co.uk/

 

In Association with Amazon.co.uk