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Lori S.

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Fritillaria sp.?
« on: June 24, 2011, 06:08:43 AM »
I planted a small number of fritillaria species in this bed, however this one doesn't seem to be any of them.  Can anyone tell me what it is?  Thank you.
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Re: Fritillaria sp.?
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2011, 10:24:26 AM »
Lori

I am sure that you have Fritillaria acmopetela.

Fritillaria acmopetela is easy to grow and produces masses of rice grains as do most forms of what we knew as F. hermonis amana before it was split up.

Now I have held a theory for many years and it is that if you grow a collection of fritillaria for long enough eventually they will all turn into either F. acmopetela of F. hermonis amana.
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Re: Fritillaria sp.?
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2011, 04:21:40 PM »
Now I have held a theory for many years and it is that if you grow a collection of fritillaria for long enough eventually they will all turn into either F. acmopetela of F. hermonis amana.

 ;D ;D
I am ahead of the game then... !   ;)

Thank you very much, Ian.
I hope you don't mind me probing a little deeper with the following question... A. acmopetala was the first one I considered, but I was confused by this entry on the Pacific Bulb society, which says that F. acmopetala should have tepal tips that curl back strongly... ??  What should one make of that?
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/AsianFritillaria
« Last Edit: June 24, 2011, 04:24:12 PM by Lori Skulski »
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Re: Fritillaria sp.?
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2011, 06:59:14 PM »
Lori, the tips of the bells of F. acmopetala are not always very obviously curled out. Likewise the tips of pontica may at times be strongly recurved!

Have a look at the nectaries... on acmopetala they are dark and  rather elongated while on pontica they are also dark but neatly round.


 Laurence Hill's Fritillaria Icones site has good illustrations....
http://www.fritillariaicones.com/icones/ic600/Fritillaria_Icones615.pdf

http://www.fritillariaicones.com/icones/ic500/Fritillaria_Icones521.pdf
 
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Re: Fritillaria sp.?
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2011, 09:09:27 PM »
Here is what the nectaries look like - not so elongated but not round either, so F. acmopetala, then?
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Re: Fritillaria sp.?
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2011, 10:29:24 PM »
Yes,  F. acmopetala. Pretty interiors, aren't they?
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Re: Fritillaria sp.?
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2011, 03:30:16 AM »
Yes, and nice to know what it is!  Thanks!
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